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makpa

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Flare seperation
« on: March 01, 2009, 07:16:47 PM »
Hello BR,

i have seen alot of difrence flare on my ball. i use mo's dual angle method, drill my own stuff and i am a high rev high speed player, 500 rpm 19-20 mph and my axis is 3½ over and 0.
fx have a fury pearl drilled 25x4½x75 pin under middle finger cg out. this ball flares about 1 inch, ball is at 1000 abralon and very early and acgin. i also have a chameleon drilled 30x4½x20 pin up 1" above fingers and right of ringfinger this ball flares unbelivable much its about 1" seperation between flarerings this ball. for me it seems like alot of difference knowing they have the same pin to pap distance. i also have 2 elite black label. 1 drilled 45x5 1/4x40 just above middle finger, this ball flares alot also just not as much as the chameleon but close. same ball 45x4 3/4x70 ball just under middle finger just like the fury pearl, about 1" flare. for the 2 black label there is only 1 inch difrence since the first one is 3" above midline and second is 2" above midline. how can this make such a big difrence?
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chitown

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Re: Flare seperation
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2009, 09:50:28 AM »
The reason the same pin distance but different locations causes more flare is because of the imblanace of the core.

Let's say I place the pin over the bridge 5" from pap.  On the 2nd ball I place the pin 5" from pap but the location ends up high above and right of the ring finger.  The 2nd ball is going to create more flare because the core is more imbalanced because the location of the pin is right of the ring finger compared to ball 1 which is above the bridge.

I hope this makes more sense.

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chitown

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Re: Flare seperation
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2009, 09:54:50 AM »
The 2nd example your using has the pins above and below the middle fingers.  The pin below has a shorter pin to pap distance which should create more flare.

Now if you were to take the ball with the pin above the middle finger 5 1/4 from pap, and place it high and right of the ring finger it should create more flare the the ball with the shorter pin to pap distance thats under the middle finger.

Ball flare is dtermined not only by pin to pap distance but also pin location.
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makpa

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Re: Flare seperation
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2009, 01:07:08 PM »
The second ball is drilled pin above and pin under middle finger. cg almost same location. like this
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i just measured the difrence today. they dont have any x holes but the first one flares 5" and the second flares 1½". a big difrenc from pin over and pin under
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J_Mac

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Re: Flare seperation
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2009, 01:16:08 PM »
You should never see a gap between flares that is more than 3/8"
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makpa

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Re: Flare seperation
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2009, 01:22:51 PM »
im not saying there is a huge gap between flare rings. all i am saying is that from first to last flare ring is 5" and the last is only 1½"
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Jay

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Re: Flare seperation
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2009, 08:10:45 PM »
quote:
The reason the same pin distance but different locations causes more flare is because of the imblanace of the core.

Let's say I place the pin over the bridge 5" from pap.  On the 2nd ball I place the pin 5" from pap but the location ends up high above and right of the ring finger.  The 2nd ball is going to create more flare because the core is more imbalanced because the location of the pin is right of the ring finger compared to ball 1 which is above the bridge.

I hope this makes more sense.


So, does the ball with the pin high and to the right of the fing finger create more flare because of the distance from the fingers, the fact the pin is further right, or something else?
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