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Title: Exactacated Thumb Inserts question
Post by: pin-smasher on June 19, 2010, 10:26:34 AM
I use vise Exactacated Thumb Inserts and was wondering when drilling the thumb hole do you drill it straight since the pitch is in the molded into the insert or do you still drill the thumb hole with the same pitches???
Title: Re: Exactacated Thumb Inserts question
Post by: notsohotshot on June 19, 2010, 06:57:02 PM
Drill the hole with the pitches you need.
Title: Re: Exactacated Thumb Inserts question
Post by: qstick777 on June 19, 2010, 07:01:43 PM
Here we go.  Waiting to see the responses here. Most will say to drill with the pitches and everything will magically equal out and be right.

My experience has been that doing that effectively doubles the pitches.

But, I''m just a guy drills my stuff in my garage, so don''t take anything I say as gospel.

Edit:  I don''t have the official vise product, so maybe vise has a way to make the pitches correct. I came up with my own system as I didn''t have $200+ to spend since I only drill for myself.

Edited on 6/19/2010 7:11 PM
Title: Re: Exactacated Thumb Inserts question
Post by: pin-smasher on June 19, 2010, 08:20:37 PM
im planning on drilling my own stuff very soon and was not 100 percent sure about that....
Title: Re: Exactacated Thumb Inserts question
Post by: Cobalt Bomb on June 19, 2010, 08:47:34 PM
Drill it 0-0 unless your pitches are extreme. If the mold pushes hard against the side of the casting tube, then you will have to make adjustments.

Edited on 6/19/2010 8:49 PM
Title: Re: Exactacated Thumb Inserts question
Post by: Effybowler on June 19, 2010, 08:54:10 PM
I'm by no means a professional, but here's how I take it. When you pour the thumb insert, if you make sure the bottom of the hole part of the mold is centered in the outer sleeve, then your insert will be zero/zero pitched in comparison to the outside of the insert. Therefore you need to drill into the ball at your correct pitch. If you dont make sure the end of the mold is centered in the outer sleeve, then you will end up with an incorrectly pitched final product no matter how you drill into the ball. I often use a piece of a popsicle stick to space the mold from the outer sleeve while it sets.
Title: Re: Exactacated Thumb Inserts question
Post by: notsohotshot on June 19, 2010, 09:26:26 PM
I have been using these things for as long as Exactacator has been out. If you pour your mold correctly and center it in the tube you will be pouring your cast material into then you drill the ball with the pitches you need. I have used these for myself and numerous customers so I am sure someone would have complained by now. Plus the person I learned from was on Vise staff.
Title: Re: Exactacated Thumb Inserts question
Post by: pin-smasher on June 19, 2010, 10:35:01 PM
so you saying drill the ball with the normal pitches i use then install molded insert??
Title: Re: Exactacated Thumb Inserts question
Post by: RealBowler on June 19, 2010, 11:41:34 PM
Didn't your kit come with instructions?  If not, perhaps you should contact Vise customer support for instructions...I'm sure they would be happy to assist.
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Title: Re: Exactacated Thumb Inserts question
Post by: elgavachon on June 20, 2010, 01:23:35 AM
after you get one made, drill a hole into an old kick around at 0 to 0. and then insert it and check the pitches with a gauge. It may be necessary to pitch your holes differently than the desired pitches to get them accurate.
Title: Re: Exactacated Thumb Inserts question
Post by: BrunsNick on June 20, 2010, 03:22:21 AM
Line up the mold centered perfectly in the cylinder then drill for your pitches. That simple.
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Edited on 6/20/2010 3:22 AM
Title: Re: Exactacated Thumb Inserts question
Post by: Gunny on June 20, 2010, 10:30:22 AM
quote:
Line up the mold centered perfectly in the cylinder then drill for your pitches. That simple.


This.