I have not posted here in a while.  My last post was one about my down position PAP but I am having a new problem.  I cannot get a 6" drilling to work for me when I put the pin above my middle finger.  My PAP is 5 1/2" over and 1/2" down.  I am a high rev, high track bowler.  I use a lot of 5" pin to PAP drilling which puts the pin in my ring finger.  Any help would be greatly appreciated. 

Also for more information, anything with a pin below fingers needs to be right of my ring finger or I will track over the middle finger.

Thank you in advance for taking the time to help/think about my problem.

Brandon

I have not posted here in a while.  My last post was one about my down position PAP but I am having a new problem.  I cannot get a 6" drilling to work for me when I put the pin above my middle finger.  My PAP is 5 1/2" over and 1/2" down.  I am a high rev, high track bowler.  I use a lot of 5" pin to PAP drilling which puts the pin in my ring finger.  Any help would be greatly appreciated. 

Also for more information, anything with a pin below fingers needs to be right of my ring finger or I will track over the middle finger.

Thank you in advance for taking the time to help/think about my problem.

Brandon

If pin-in-ring is 5" pin-PAP, then pin OVER middle finger will be 6 1/2" pin-PAP.
On a symmetric core, this will provide virtually zero flare; on an asymmetric core, you will get flare, but the ball roll after the breakpoint will be very end over end (according to the Mo theory). In either case, unless you have a ton of tilt and rotation, you will be forced to play a very outside line.

So, like Milo said, what's the idea, what are you trying to do?
and why do it this way?

FWIW when I had a PAP with a down component, I got a better reaction with the pin UNDER the middle finger. It will still have a pin-PAP greater than 5", 5 3/4" roughly.

My father has a pretty high track and is a lower-rev player.  I've been laying his stuff out for a while, and he gets MUCH better ball reactions with long pins (5.5 to 6 pin to PAP) under the middle finger (SICK reactions actually), and closer pins (2-3 inch pin to PAP) under or adjacent to the ring finger.  Both give him a lot of control, and the ball is much more active going through the pins.  Stronger pins, and higher pins, and especially stronger AND higher pins usually get him into trouble with the ball rolling out and leaving flat 10s all the live long day.

Definition of insanity - doing the same thing over & over expecting a different result

I just heard this over the weekend on ESPN radio....... lol

Closer to the pap creates a slower smoother response and one close to the track creates a sharper faster response...so try a pin closer to your pap to smooth out your reaction and place a hole the same distance

i went through this type of ball reaction for several years, tried many differnt balls/layouts.
for ME, i took some lessons and realized that i was muscling the swing and helping it way to much.
Once i was able to fix these issues, i can finally get the ball through the heads and actually drill some stronger pieces than i never, ever had in my bag before.
i couldn't drill away the problems I was having