Post by: Oskuposer on April 30, 2005, 05:15:00 AM
--0-0*
---cg
---0
Awsome backend out of any ball
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Good bowler use the big B and when they do they create a Storm
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Post by: Traumatize on April 30, 2005, 01:28:58 PM
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Post by: Re-Evolution on April 30, 2005, 01:36:14 PM
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STORM TRACK
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Post by: livespive on April 30, 2005, 02:08:50 PM
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Post by: omegabowler on April 30, 2005, 02:42:41 PM
I have an inverted ball track and this best for me. it was my sweet spot according to a ebonite ball rep. and it works well on symetricals more so than any other drilling.
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Post by: Hex017 on April 30, 2005, 02:51:06 PM
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Leverage for me
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Ditto. Need to try some new layouts though, think there is better out there for me.
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-If you're not willing to change, you're not willing to improve.
-Life is like a coin, you can spend it any way you want, but you can only spend it once.
-I will forever love this great game, I love the people and the competition, I only wish the best would get the recognition of an ATHLETE that they deserve.
Post by: stanski on April 30, 2005, 03:09:21 PM
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stanski
Post by: Hex017 on April 30, 2005, 03:21:46 PM
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Rev Leverage!
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-Sean~ Also Known As- Lidge
Houston Astros~-~05
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Are you serious? Lol, awesome Sean. Just had to laugh at that.
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-If you're not willing to change, you're not willing to improve.
-Life is like a coin, you can spend it any way you want, but you can only spend it once.
-I will forever love this great game, I love the people and the competition, I only wish the best would get the recognition of an ATHLETE that they deserve.
Post by: RSalas on April 30, 2005, 03:23:43 PM
) when I drill a ball, I'll do so to achieve a particular reaction, and this desired reaction will dictate the layout that I choose.--------------------
Better to be a big fish in a small pond than not to be a big fish at all.
Horrid in Doubles, torrid in Singles...
...that's The Curse of Dusty.
Post by: bighook69 on April 30, 2005, 03:57:44 PM
--O-O
------cg
---O---mb
Pin above ring finger CG kicked out and Mass Bias on VAL, Seems to give me a VERY good Mid-Lane read and a ton af backend (This being my Particle ONLY drill).
For Reactive I will use basic Stacked Leverage
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Post by: DON DRAPER on April 30, 2005, 04:31:38 PM
Edited on 4/30/2005 4:27 PM
Post by: livespive on April 30, 2005, 06:40:45 PM
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Leverage for me
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Ditto. Need to try some new layouts though, think there is better out there for me.
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-If you're not willing to change, you're not willing to improve.
-Life is like a coin, you can spend it any way you want, but you can only spend it once.
-I will forever love this great game, I love the people and the competition, I only wish the best would get the recognition of an ATHLETE that they deserve.
I have tried several, but I have found that I like it best when the pin is at leverage.
MY 315 ball has the pin at leverage. So is my stacked, and my label drillings.
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Post by: charlest on April 30, 2005, 07:31:21 PM
Folks,
Who gives a rat's *** where the holes are with respect to your finger holes? That has zippo to do with bowling. When are any of you going to realize that?
Yumpin' Yiminy.
Post by: Hex017 on April 30, 2005, 09:29:33 PM
quote:quote:
3 or 4 holes in ball, fingers in 3 of the holes!
Folks,
Who gives a rat's *** where the holes are with respect to your finger holes? That has zippo to do with bowling. When are any of you going to realize that?
Yumpin' Yiminy.
Charlie, I'm shocked assuming I read this reply correctly. You're suggesting (?) that drilling pattern has no influence on ball reaction? In that case, how about pin-axis for everything? I've learned, for example (through long, expensive, often painful) experience that pin above ring or at 1:30 to ring (i.e., 4.5-5" pin-pap, high rg) works best for me for a late midlane flare read with energy retention on the backend. I've also learned I prefer the 'look' of low Rg balls in spite of their downside of losing cleanliness through the heads in many instances. I think that's the general gist of this thread ...
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Bullet the blue sky.
I think he is talking about the pictures... the pictures do not state the PAP or track or basically any information on the bowlers themselves so we really don't know how the ball is going to react...that's sort of why I gave mine a name..Label Leverage...although I would like to use a few new drillings.
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-If you're not willing to change, you're not willing to improve.
-Life is like a coin, you can spend it any way you want, but you can only spend it once.
-I will forever love this great game, I love the people and the competition, I only wish the best would get the recognition of an ATHLETE that they deserve.
Post by: CharlieBrown on April 30, 2005, 09:30:05 PM
quote:quote:
3 or 4 holes in ball, fingers in 3 of the holes!
Folks,
Who gives a rat's *** where the holes are with respect to your finger holes? That has zippo to do with bowling. When are any of you going to realize that?
Yumpin' Yiminy.
Charlie, I'm shocked assuming I read this reply correctly. You're suggesting (?) that drilling pattern has no influence on ball reaction? In that case, how about pin-axis for everything? I've learned, for example (through long, expensive, often painful) experience that pin above ring or at 1:30 to ring (i.e., 4.5-5" pin-pap, high rg) works best for me for a late midlane flare read with energy retention on the backend. I've also learned I prefer the 'look' of low Rg balls in spite of their downside of losing cleanliness through the heads in many instances. I think that's the general gist of this thread ...
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Bullet the blue sky.
Maybe charlest's saying that the important thing is the pin/mb distance with respect to your PAP? Whereas most of the reply we have so far, they only say where the pin/cg/mb are in relation to their fingers holes.
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The Angry Bowler
Post by: Brickguy221 on April 30, 2005, 09:58:37 PM
Assymetric Cores....Pin under RF and MB on the VAL and not more than 5" max. from PAP
Rather than using different drillings on balls for different looks, I usually but not always, use the same drilling on different balls to get the different looks.
Works for me.
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Proud Owner of a Track GP2
Post by: stanski on May 01, 2005, 12:04:37 AM
quote:quote:quote:
3 or 4 holes in ball, fingers in 3 of the holes!
Folks,
Who gives a rat's *** where the holes are with respect to your finger holes? That has zippo to do with bowling. When are any of you going to realize that?
Yumpin' Yiminy.
Charlie, I'm shocked assuming I read this reply correctly. You're suggesting (?) that drilling pattern has no influence on ball reaction? In that case, how about pin-axis for everything? I've learned, for example (through long, expensive, often painful) experience that pin above ring or at 1:30 to ring (i.e., 4.5-5" pin-pap, high rg) works best for me for a late midlane flare read with energy retention on the backend. I've also learned I prefer the 'look' of low Rg balls in spite of their downside of losing cleanliness through the heads in many instances. I think that's the general gist of this thread ...
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Bullet the blue sky.
Maybe charlest's saying that the important thing is the pin/mb distance with respect to your PAP? Whereas most of the reply we have so far, they only say where the pin/cg/mb are in relation to their fingers holes.
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The Angry Bowler
Yes, this is what he is saying. Its probably mostly due to the fact that people don't know their pap/don't bother to actually measure out their favorite layouts...
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stanski
Post by: icetink on May 01, 2005, 12:11:31 AM
--o-o-----
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-----CG---
----o------
-------MB-
Great control and A LOT of movement. Pin over bridge and MB kicked out has worked well for me; it gives me decent length and a BIG backend move.
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Post by: Bluff on May 05, 2005, 11:02:54 PM
quote:quote:quote:
3 or 4 holes in ball, fingers in 3 of the holes!
Folks,
Who gives a rat's *** where the holes are with respect to your finger holes? That has zippo to do with bowling. When are any of you going to realize that?
Yumpin' Yiminy.
Charlie, I'm shocked assuming I read this reply correctly. You're suggesting (?) that drilling pattern has no influence on ball reaction? In that case, how about pin-axis for everything? I've learned, for example (through long, expensive, often painful) experience that pin above ring or at 1:30 to ring (i.e., 4.5-5" pin-pap, high rg) works best for me for a late midlane flare read with energy retention on the backend. I've also learned I prefer the 'look' of low Rg balls in spite of their downside of losing cleanliness through the heads in many instances. I think that's the general gist of this thread ...
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Bullet the blue sky.
Maybe charlest's saying that the important thing is the pin/mb distance with respect to your PAP? Whereas most of the reply we have so far, they only say where the pin/cg/mb are in relation to their fingers holes.
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The Angry Bowler
Can't say it better hehehehe
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Honestly I got a lot of balls. No NOT BOWLING BALLS!
Post by: drillbit on May 08, 2005, 09:01:37 AM
drillbit
Post by: Strapper_Squared on May 13, 2005, 01:04:58 PM
--cg-
---0-
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-p---
I am going to have to put my vote in as the "girard" layout from a few months ago. I decided to lay this out on a Goliath, and have been very pleased. Great read... excellent carry.... no problems.
S^2
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Post by: Mr Lefty on May 13, 2005, 01:48:01 PM
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Gee I wonder how would the slogan be if they combined both...
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