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stormfanken

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finding the PAP
« on: June 14, 2009, 05:12:18 PM »
This may sound like a stupid question so I am looking for some other opinions. I had my local pro shop guy look at my bowling ball to find the PAP before he drilled another ball for me. He looked at 3 different balls and all of them were different.....is it possible for you PAP to me different from ball to ball ????

 

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Re: finding the PAP
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2009, 01:14:55 AM »
yes, if the cores of the balls are different!

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Re: finding the PAP
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2009, 01:19:46 AM »
Yes, different balls will have slightly difference PAPs...

The basic rule of thumb is to use your 3-piece plastic spare ball or a low flaring reactive ball to give the best chance of zeroing in on the initial track flare.

On a 3-piece ball, you'll note that the PAP numbers are larger in both dimensions when compared to a ball with a more dynamic core.  That's due to a balls tendency to seek stability even in the air.

sluggo35

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Re: finding the PAP
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2009, 01:20:18 AM »
try picking the least flaring ball and let him use that one to find your pap.

stormfanken

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Re: finding the PAP
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2009, 01:23:01 AM »
thanks for the help.....I appreciate it. I had a spare ball with me, shouldnt he have known to take it off of that ball?

J_Mac

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Re: finding the PAP
« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2009, 01:28:48 AM »
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thanks for the help.....I appreciate it. I had a spare ball with me, shouldnt he have known to take it off of that ball?


Yes, but he got a general idea of what he needed to know off of what he used.

Quite frankly, I'd be surprised if the PAP on your spare ball was more than 1/2" away from what he found on your other ball.

More than close enough for a THS.  Besides, the surface you keep the ball at dictates its motion more than the way the ball is drilled anyhow.

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Re: finding the PAP
« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2009, 10:41:38 AM »
The most acdcurate way to locate your PAP is while throwing the spare ball.  Mark the spot you think is right with a piece of white tape and throw it.  If you've got it right the tape will be stationary.  If it's not, move the tape until it stays stationary, then measure the location.  --  JohnP

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Re: finding the PAP
« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2009, 12:21:27 PM »
Here's from Ebonite

It is easiest to locate the PAP from a lower flaring ball. I would suggest a spare ball. Clean off the ball with a towel, removing all of the oil rings. Find the part of the lane where there is oil (usually around the 4th arrow) and throw the ball down the lane with your normal release. When the ball comes back, there will be an oil ring. This is your ball track. Trace the ball track with a wax pencil to make it easier to locate. Place the ball in a ball cup (ashtray, etc.) with the ball track side of the ball down. The PAP will be the point that is equidistant from each point of the ball track. Use a tape measure from several points of the ball track until you find the spot that is the same distance from all points of the ball track. This point will be your PAP.
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To verify the location of the PAP, place a piece of thumb tape on this spot and throw a shot down the lane. This spot should stay still throughout the first 25 feet. (Depending on the type of ball)
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To measure the location of the PAP, you will need to be able to find the center of your span. This will be half the distance from the front edge of the thumbhole to the front edge of the fingers. From the center of span, draw a perpendicular line (lets call this line ”Horizontal‘) to the same side of the ball that the PAP is located on. More times than not, this line will not intersect directly with the PAP. You will need to draw a line vertically up (or down in some cases) to the PAP. This ”Vertical‘ line is perpendicular to the ”Horizontal‘ line. This will give you two measurements, horizontal and vertical, to accurately locate the PAP from the center of your span.
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Edited on 6/15/2009 12:23 PM
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