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General Category => Drilling & Layouts => Topic started by: AussieBowler on April 09, 2007, 05:18:12 PM

Title: Finger Pitches
Post by: AussieBowler on April 09, 2007, 05:18:12 PM
Hi All,

I have a problem of pushing the ball into the lane and wanted to ask if a change in the forward / reverse pitches on the ball would help any?

Currently have 1/8 towards the palm.

Also have fairly loose grips if this could cause a problem?

Cheers Aussie
Title: Re: Finger Pitches
Post by: JohnP on April 10, 2007, 04:12:29 PM
I'm not sure what you mean by "pushing the ball into the lane".  Can you explain further?  --  JohnP
Title: Re: Finger Pitches
Post by: AussieBowler on April 10, 2007, 10:10:28 PM
Hi John,

When i release the ball rather than the ball been put on the lane smoothly i seem to dump / push the ball into the lane. Maybe my swing but though a pitch change may help me hang on to it longer
Title: Re: Finger Pitches
Post by: Slick300 on April 10, 2007, 10:39:48 PM
What is your span and thumb pitch it sounds as though your thumb may be coming out to soon and when that happens you are unable to lift the ball 1/8 towards the palm for the fingers should allow you to hold onto it especially if you use grips.
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Title: Re: Finger Pitches
Post by: AussieBowler on April 11, 2007, 05:25:52 AM
Hi Span is 96 and 100mm cut to cut. I bowl semi finger tip

Thumb pitch is 0 side 1/4 reverse.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Finger Pitches
Post by: JohnP on April 11, 2007, 01:09:15 PM
Your spans are between 3 3/4" and 4", unless you have an extremely stiff thumb you are using too much reverse pitch.  From the chart on the Jayhawk site, link below, for a thumb with "some flexibility" the proper starting pitch would be 1/8 forward.  I'm not a fan of forward thumb pitch (many drillers are), so I would start you at 0.  I think you are dropping the ball off your thumb.  --  JohnP

http://www.jayhawkbowling.com/Pro_s_Corner/Pro_Shop_Forms/thumbangle.pdf
Title: Re: Finger Pitches
Post by: Slick300 on April 12, 2007, 11:29:55 AM
Good Idea cut your reverse pitch from 1/4 reverses to 0 if you feel that you are dropping it go to an 1/8 forward. If the option is available to you do this with turbos switch grips for the thumb in a test ball that way you could have one thumb with  0 and one with 1/8 forward. And would be able to compare them.
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Title: Re: Finger Pitches
Post by: RealBowler on April 12, 2007, 06:01:23 PM
Anybody know where to get a cleaner version of that chart?  I can't read it on screen.  When I print it out, its too fuzzy to read.
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Title: Re: Finger Pitches
Post by: JohnP on April 12, 2007, 09:24:51 PM
You might try copying it and pasting it into another program (Word?) where you can change the font size.  --  JohnP
Title: Re: Finger Pitches
Post by: AussieBowler on April 13, 2007, 09:43:25 AM
Thanks,

I will try a 0 and 1/8 forward and see how i go.

Cheers Aussie.
Title: Re: Finger Pitches
Post by: LuckyLefty on April 13, 2007, 09:49:06 AM
Besides grip...a too steep downswing can cause this, along with a tilted forward body at release(which causes the steep downswing).

The pros talk about a long flat spot.

On the morichbowling.com website they talk about how to creat a flat spot in ones delivery.

ALSO...Dave Davis he of the super form and PBA hall of famer says flat releases come from having a body posture that puts a proud chest slightly behind the slide knee.  Or as he also says....17 degrees off vertical.

REgards,

Luckylefty
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