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Greg T

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Pinky hole
« on: March 08, 2009, 02:39:15 PM »

 Is there a rule of thumb (no joke here)for measuring for a pinky hole? Distnace? Pitch? Bridge?

 Or, insert hand into the ball and put a mark on the ball hlaf way between the joints?

                 




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Re: Pinky hole
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2009, 10:52:08 PM »
I'd advise measuring it just like you would a regular finger.

On mine, I typically use a quarter scale, center it on the bridge and go on a 20-degree angle down from the ring, leaving a 1/2 inch between cuts. I think pitch it away the same amount I pitched the ring. I also use 0 or reverse pitch with a lot of bevel in the hole.

In my experience, you don't want to consciously know that finger is in there. It's not something you should actively be trying to lift from (unless that's your goal).

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Re: Pinky hole
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2009, 12:32:43 PM »

 I don't know what my actual goal is. I have some major physical probs this year with my neck and a pinched nerve. I am 55 years old and throwing 15 pound stuff. I want to make the ball feel a little lighter and I thought another finger would help.

 Now, measuring the same way as what? Take the difference between the ring and pinky creases? Mark the pinky and use the BT Ball fitter just as I would the middle finger?


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Re: Pinky hole
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2009, 03:08:31 PM »
If you do the thing where you put your thumb in the ball, lay your fingers out across the ball and the leading edge of your finger holes fall halfway between the first and second joint of your fingers, then I would advise using the same method for your pinky.

The pinky doesn't need to be quite as precise, since it's not going to be a true "lifting" finger (although I do impart a little lift with mine). Its basically going to help you with ball stability on the hand. Every time you add a finger into the ball, you divide its weight across another surface, plus you gain some lateral stability (the ball won't be as easy to shift side to side through your delivery). Where you'll see the biggest difference is in the pain (or lack thereof) in wrist tendons, and a decrease in the likelihood you'll get "golfer's elbow" (the opposite of tennis elbow and the condition that most affects us as bowlers in that joint).

Where people get messed up with pinky finger holes, I've found, is if they drill them in a way that doesn't allow their hand to trigger and clear at release. I would say it took me less than 5 hours to get accustomed to the change, perhaps I was lucky. Cutting down revs is a common complaint and I have to believe those folks either are drilling the hole too close to the thumb or too far away from the other fingers. When done properly, it mimics the effect of keeping the pinky finger tucked.

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Re: Pinky hole
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2009, 03:22:25 PM »
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Or, insert hand into the ball and put a mark on the ball hlaf way between the joints?


Hey Greg,

This is what I do for distance but the trickier part is actually where you decide to place the hole. Keeping your pinky tucked in next to your hand can help support more of the ball weight (if index is spread also) to go "around" the ball. If you spread it out away from the grip, the would help you support the weight for throwing "behind" the ball.  Not sure if you like changing hand positions or not...
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Re: Pinky hole
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2009, 03:50:20 PM »
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Or, insert hand into the ball and put a mark on the ball hlaf way between the joints?


Hey Greg,

This is what I do for distance but the trickier part is actually where you decide to place the hole. Keeping your pinky tucked in next to your hand can help support more of the ball weight (if index is spread also) to go "around" the ball. If you spread it out away from the grip, the would help you support the weight for throwing "behind" the ball.  Not sure if you like changing hand positions or not...
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  Ten,
     I normally do tuck the pinky when the lanes are a little wetter. It gives me a little more movement on the ball. I do change hand positions frequently as the conditions dictate so that's no problem.

  Jess,
     Since I usually keep the pinky close to the ring I will probably start with about 3/8 bridge and I'll put the crease in the same location as the other two fingers. That way the grip SHOULD feel natural.

     Thanx, folks!!!!
Edit: I'm using 1/4" away pitch in my fibngers...pinky too?

           

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Re: Pinky hole
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2009, 04:41:46 PM »
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Edit: I'm using 1/4" away pitch in my fibngers...pinky too?


That should be fine seeing as how you're basically drilling the pinky to help support overall weight and not trying to increase turn or change axis rotation.  This should also help you clear a little easier.

Oh, along with your 3/8 bridge, I also recommend to at least match your ring finger lateral if not even increase it some so ring and pinky do not meet (as Jess has mentioned).  Hope this helps...
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Re: Pinky hole
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2009, 06:14:08 PM »
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Edit: I'm using 1/4" away pitch in my fibngers...pinky too?


That should be fine seeing as how you're basically drilling the pinky to help support overall weight and not trying to increase turn or change axis rotation.  This should also help you clear a little easier.

Oh, along with your 3/8 bridge, I also recommend to at least match your ring finger lateral if not even increase it some so ring and pinky do not meet (as Jess has mentioned).  Hope this helps...
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 I use 1/2 right on the ring so I was going to use about 5/8 right on the pinky. It's gonna be really shallow anyway.



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Re: Pinky hole
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2009, 06:39:21 PM »
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Edit: I'm using 1/4" away pitch in my fibngers...pinky too?


That should be fine seeing as how you're basically drilling the pinky to help support overall weight and not trying to increase turn or change axis rotation.  This should also help you clear a little easier.

Oh, along with your 3/8 bridge, I also recommend to at least match your ring finger lateral if not even increase it some so ring and pinky do not meet (as Jess has mentioned).  Hope this helps...
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 I use 1/2 right on the ring so I was going to use about 5/8 right on the pinky. It's gonna be really shallow anyway.



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You should be fine with that. I typically drill my pinky holes less than an inch depth, but if I need to go deeper (it's a good way to do weight removal if you need it) I have to make sure to pitch it further away than the ring or they will  definitely meet. The good news is that, unless you screw up and drill it 5/8 left instead of 5/8 right, you're probably not going to feel the difference -- that hole doesn't seem to be nearly as touch-sensitive as a poorly drilled thumbhole or middle finger hole. So if you need to add 1/8 or 1/4 more away than you think you'd be comfortable with, you can probably do it.

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Re: Pinky hole
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2009, 10:14:04 PM »


  After some fine measuring and testing on an old ball, I found that my pinky span is the same as my middle finger span. I used a 3/8" bridge, 1/4 away and 1/2" right pitches. Worked out great. I use grips for R and M but went gripless for the pinky. Figuered it may be tough to get a clean release. I'll throw them Wednesday night and see how they feel.


    Thanx folks!
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