Plus40 -- Thanks for a sensible answer to my question. Now, let's see if I've got this right. For example, let's take a 5" pin with a label drilling layout. When thrown, the ball is going to have minimal flare, then as the core comes down toward the 45 degree angle, the flare will increase until it passes through 45 degrees and heads toward horizontal, flare decreasing as it does. Is this correct? And if it is, are we right to say that the 3 3/8 pin position is the most flaring? It's certainly the most flaring when the ball is released, but it loses flare quickly as it heads toward horizontal. Whereas a ball with an intermediate pin (4 - 5") starts out with substantial flare, passes through maximum flare, then may or may not get the core to horizontal before it hits the pins, depending on ball speed, revs, etc. Which leads to another question, is it better for a ball to be done with its flare before it hits the pins? Or is it better for a ball to still be flaring with the core headed toward horizontal? And I thought I was done with physics in 1966. -- JohnP