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alex

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Forward Thumb Pitch
« on: January 06, 2005, 05:02:03 AM »
True or false, using forward thumb cuts down your rev rate. I was thinking of trying forward in my thumb but was told this would cut down my revs which i can't afford.
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a_ak57

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Re: Forward Thumb Pitch
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2005, 01:07:07 PM »
False.  The purpose of forward thumb pitch is to keep your thumb in the ball longer.  It may cut down revs somewhere along the line, but it won't affect revs directly.  The whole point of pitch is to make your release as clean as possible.

Are you dropping the ball?  if so, you might want forward pitch.  If you are fine releasing it, you should keep things the same.  Wait, while we're at it, is there anything you dislike about your current thumbhole?  Pain, not coming out clean, etc.
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a_ak57

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Re: Forward Thumb Pitch
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2005, 01:11:48 PM »
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There is an article in Bowling This Month by Ken Webber who states he worked with a bowler with about a 200 rpm rev rate.  0 Forward and 1/8 left. (right handed)

He put him in a oval thumb hole at 1/2" forward and 3/8 right and his RPM went up to 300. A little work on the release got another 40.

I have been trying a little more forward, 1/16th at a time to see were it leads me.

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Like i said, the actual pitch doesn't cause you to increase/decrease revs or anything, but it is the fit to your thumb.  For one person, forward could hang them up and kill revs, but for another, it could make release clean and more revs.
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alex

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Re: Forward Thumb Pitch
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2005, 01:57:04 PM »
yes.i have developed a callus on both sides of my thumb so i have to open both sides of my thumbhole but then i have to use four to six pices of tape in my thump, this is why i asked the above question about forwad thumb pitch.
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a_ak57

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Re: Forward Thumb Pitch
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2005, 01:58:26 PM »
Well that doesn't sound like you need forward pitch, but just an oval thumbhole or something.  You can try it anyways, but get your drillers opinion first.  it's hard to do these things on the internet
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Re: Forward Thumb Pitch
« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2005, 07:27:12 PM »
alex -- Two words - Magic Carpet.  --  JohnP
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Mike Austin

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Re: Forward Thumb Pitch
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2005, 09:34:39 PM »
Alex,

aaaaak57 is right here.  Sounds like you need to try a milled thumb.  If you get the shape of the thumb right, you can have it "worked out on the sides" and not use excessive tape.  I would caution, that using 4-8 pieces of tape at this time of year, with the weather cold/cooler is probably a good thing.  When the weather warms up, much of that tape will come out.

Also, no, forward in and of itself will not lower your rev rate.  Forward pitch in combination with too long a span, wrong shaped hole, not enough bevel, could lock you in the ball, and cause you to lose revs.

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Re: Forward Thumb Pitch
« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2005, 12:35:05 AM »
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Like i said, the actual pitch doesn't cause you to increase/decrease revs or anything, but it is the fit to your thumb. For one person, forward could hang them up and kill revs, but for another, it could make release clean and more revs.


I find that statment to be very true... on my last ball that i drilled i had 1/8in reverse pitch taken out to get me down to 1/4in reverse pitch, and i now come out of the ball much cleaner than i did on my 3/8in pitched hole.

I was also thinking about takin an old ball in and lengthening the span and throwing a little right pitch in there to find a ball that is more comfortable to me.
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Re: Forward Thumb Pitch
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2005, 12:01:29 AM »
Forward and reverse mean nothing till one knows your span!

I am actualy with Ken Webber this weekend and he did not imply that revs were increased because of the forward pitch.

It is actually Ken's belief that the faster the thumb comes out the greater seperation in time between thumb release and fingers leads to revs.

Ken gets that seperation thru proper fit and fairly slick  tape he adds to his thumb.  The forward pitch for him allow him to determine exactly when he wants to realease his thumb hold.

Your span may be different, your thumb flexibility may be different etc.

For exapmple a person with a 6 inch span using 1/2 reverse may actually be far more forward in relation to his proper thumb pitch than you would be if you used 1/4 forward and had a very flexible thumb and a 4 inch span!

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