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VAbowler

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Got a question....
« on: November 21, 2007, 04:14:52 PM »
Is it okay to drill an Awesome Finish w/the mb on the left side of my thumb? Or maybe right below the thumbhole?  It'll end up being about 6" from PAP.  Looking for pin right above ring finger, about 5" pin to pap, mb 6" from pap, looking for a little control, rev dominant, 15 mph speed.
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Re: Got a question....
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2007, 02:30:07 AM »
It all depends on your PAP, but that is NOT and will never be a control drill for a MoRich asymmetric core.
One of the reasons is a 5" pin to PAP willstill have maximum flare; it is NOT a length or reduced flare pin position, like it is for a symmetric. The 6" pin will force a reduced backend, IF you have enough revs. If you don't, it may have no backend at all. You really must talk to a driller who knows your game AND who knows how to drill strong mass bias balls.

One thing is you need to put the pin at or less than 2 3/4" from your PAP to reduce the flare.

See the MoRIch drill basic sheet for the Awesome Finish:
http://www.morichbowling.com/AwesomeFinish/InfoSheet.asp
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VAbowler

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Re: Got a question....
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2007, 05:14:45 PM »
Well just a little more control.  I figure a 5" pin to pap will still flare a lot, but it will be later in the backend, along with the longer mb distance.  Kinda of like a label drill for a Mo ball
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Re: Got a question....
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2007, 06:02:41 PM »
If you are very rev-dominant, having the mb to the left of the thumb may be ok. It will help with length, but at the expense of entry angle, and the ball may be too weak. If you are willing to experiment with a 200.00 ball...
A more conventional answer would be a longer pin-pap distance, maybe 6", perhaps with mb above and slightly right of thumb. Any of these "experimental" type drillings come with the risk of the ball being a "dud". Your pro shop operator, watching you, may be able to help, but some trial and error may be necessary and you have to understand that. Maybe another ball that emphasizes length and control may be the answer.
If length is not a consideration, I agree with the earlier poster to reduce the pin to pap distance to cut the flare will give more control.
Joe

Edited on 11/22/2007 7:03 PM
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Re: Got a question....
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2007, 07:02:01 PM »
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VAbowler

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Re: Got a question....
« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2007, 07:43:02 PM »
so maybe having the mb like right in line with my thumb, and maybe the pin like 3 1/2" from pap?  So it'll flare less, but I still need length.
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Cobalt Bomb

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Re: Got a question....
« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2007, 08:02:33 PM »
3 3/8" is max flare. The pin distance is a larger influence than the mb. I have a gp2 with the pin 3 3/8 and mb left of thumb. It is early, less angular.
It sounds like what you are asking for is a "Tommy Jones" type drilling or one with the pin 1-2" from the VAL (high over the fingers) and mb over the thumb. That will give you extra length, whatever pin distance you choose.
You need to keep in mind 2 things:
You need to be sure of your axis measurements, if the pin is beyond the val, it may reverse flare.
Also many people have drilled balls in this fashion, only to be dissatisfied with the late or lack of reaction because they don't have as many revs as TJ.

With the new high mb balls as a possible exception (levRG, etc), mb position is a secondary influence that can be used to fine tune the reaction, and not determine it, as compared to pin placement.
Hope this helps your decision.
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VAbowler

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Re: Got a question....
« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2007, 08:43:15 PM »
I was thinking like 5" pin to pap then, pin like right above the ring finger, mb like either right below the thumb, or just to the left of thumb, putting it like 6" from pap.  Kinda like a label drill.
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