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General Category => Drilling & Layouts => Topic started by: agroves on March 04, 2004, 08:42:53 AM

Title: Guess I got paid back......
Post by: agroves on March 04, 2004, 08:42:53 AM: I used my new Shock Zone in league Tuesday night for a game and a half. Since then my wrist has been sore. I thought maybe something was off in my shock zone. I brought it in tonight and the span is 1/16th shorter than everything else. That may or may not be what is causing my wrist to be sore.

I didn't drill this one for myself. I picked it up from a shop in town for 100 bucks. This is the guy who used to drill my equipment and this isn't the first time something has been off.

Paybacks are a bi+ch.

Andrew
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Title: Re: Guess I got paid back......
Post by: JohnP on March 05, 2004, 10:38:10 AM: Andrew -- I can't believe 1/16 short in span would make your wrist sore. Are you cupping more than normal? -- JohnP
Title: Re: Guess I got paid back......
Post by: NoNeed4Revs on March 05, 2004, 10:40:49 AM: 1/16th isn't even noticeable, really. However, if this driller got the span wrong, I'd check the pitches too. A 1/16th shorter span with, say, 1/8th difference in pitch could make a huge difference.
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Title: Re: Guess I got paid back......
Post by: channel surfer on March 05, 2004, 12:12:35 PM: quote:
Andrew -- I can't believe 1/16 short in span would make your wrist sore. Are you cupping more than normal? -- JohnP

I was thinking the same thing.
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Title: Re: Guess I got paid back......
Post by: LuckyLefty on March 05, 2004, 03:05:39 PM: I can give you a way to always make your spans different.

I'll drill with a Jonell, "Tru Span" span guage and you use one of those plastic span guages. For me everytime the plastic shows 1/16 longer than the Tru pitch(note I have moderate reverse in my thumb and the span guage does not seem to be able compensate for that.

REgards,

Luckylefty
If Jonell says 4 11/16, plastic says 4 3/4. Cool!
Title: Re: Guess I got paid back......
Post by: Brickguy221 on March 05, 2004, 04:21:32 PM: Quote
...1/16th isn't even noticeable, really
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Oh yes it is noticeable. In fact I can even feel 1/32" difference in span and several others on this site can too as I've heard them talk about it.

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[Quote again]...Luckylefty
If Jonell says 4 11/16, plastic says 4 3/4.
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Lefty is right. Every plastic span guage I've ever owned has been 1/16" longer than a Jonell or similiar guage.

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Title: Re: Guess I got paid back......
Post by: agroves on March 05, 2004, 05:18:21 PM: First off, I have a relaxed span as it is. I am also very, very picky about the feel of the ball. Even if it is right ball for the condition I won't throw it if something feels off. This may sound wierd but I will constantly release the ball differently if it doesn't feel right.

I was swinging the ball and turning it more on Tuesday than I have in quite some time. I have been playing the lanes straighter lately but I was off on Tuesday so moved deep with a stronger ball.

I already feel old so I don't think thats it Phatdon...

We use the same measure tools as this driller.

Andrew
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Title: Re: Guess I got paid back......
Post by: JohnP on March 05, 2004, 10:53:01 PM: agroves -- Please note that I didn't say you couldn't feel a 1/16 difference, but that I didn't believe it would make your wrist sore. And I'll stick with that.

Regarding the Jonell vs plastic span guages, do I understand you to be saying that the Jonell is correct and the plastic is off? I use a plastic guage, but I also measure the span from my measuring ball with the same guage. Then I check the spans on my press (an old AMF 3600, a sidewinder) with the same guage, so the span I drill is the same as I measured, even if both are off 1/16. And the same comparison is true if I duplicate a layout from an existing ball. An error in the fit would occur only if someone told me to drill (for example) a 4 11/16 span and I measured it with a guage that was incorrect. -- JohnP
Title: Re: Guess I got paid back......
Post by: agroves on March 06, 2004, 01:06:43 AM: JohnP--I think the soreness was caused by me turning the ball more than normal. It didn't seem to bother me much today. I didn't bowl league tonight b/c I have to big tournies the next two weekends.

Andrew
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