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heavy top weighted layouts?
« on: January 28, 2015, 01:41:11 PM »
my buddy recently got an xouted ball that was heavy top weighted, not sure what to do with it, he wants it to hook, and i believe heavy top weighted balls like to push down the lane further if im not mistaken(correct me if im wrong) and we were woundering what sort of layout options do we have here. he's medium speed low/medium rev rate it's an lx16 xout 
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Re: heavy top weighted layouts?
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2015, 01:53:40 PM »
put 3 holes in it and let him go bowl.  If he hadn't seen the box he would never know the difference.
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Re: heavy top weighted layouts?
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2015, 02:06:17 PM »
His only issue could be if he intends to use it in El Paso. I have a Covert Revolt that has right at an ounce of top weight after drilling. The finger holes are as deep as they can go without making the problem worse and I use an IT, so making the thumb deeper isn't an issue.

Otherwise, it rolls just fine and has a very nice hook on the backend.
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Re: heavy top weighted layouts?
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2015, 02:27:23 PM »
Quote from: itsallaboutme on January 28, 2015, 01:53:40 PM
put 3 holes in it and let him go bowl.  If he hadn't seen the box he would never know the difference.
he already knows lol
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Re: heavy top weighted layouts?
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2015, 04:34:35 PM »
Quote from: milorafferty on January 28, 2015, 02:06:17 PM
His only issue could be if he intends to use it in El Paso. I have a Covert Revolt that has right at an ounce of top weight after drilling. The finger holes are as deep as they can go without making the problem worse and I use an IT, so making the thumb deeper isn't an issue.

Otherwise, it rolls just fine and has a very nice hook on the backend.

Maximum static weights allowed are 3 oz for top/bottom and 1 oz on the sides/finger/thumb.

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Re: heavy top weighted layouts?
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2015, 04:48:52 PM »
Quote from: MI 2 AZ on January 28, 2015, 04:34:35 PM
Quote from: milorafferty on January 28, 2015, 02:06:17 PM
His only issue could be if he intends to use it in El Paso. I have a Covert Revolt that has right at an ounce of top weight after drilling. The finger holes are as deep as they can go without making the problem worse and I use an IT, so making the thumb deeper isn't an issue.

Otherwise, it rolls just fine and has a very nice hook on the backend.

Maximum static weights allowed are 3 oz for top/bottom and 1 oz on the sides/finger/thumb.



Ah, ok. Must have been right at 3 oz then. It was weighed two in Reno, first time he said it was close but let it go, the second time through, the guy made a big deal about it and said don't bring it back next year. LOL
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Re: heavy top weighted layouts?
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2015, 08:37:47 PM »
LX16 is asymmetric, isn't it?

MB and pin placement are the big mitigating factors.

 As long as the CG isn't too far out of line, there are still some options.

 How much starting topweight are we talking about, how far out is the pin from the CG, and are the pin, CG, and MB in alignment?

 If out of alignment, how?  And, which hand does he throw with?
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Re: heavy top weighted layouts?
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2015, 09:43:35 PM »
That reminds me, I have a Hard Drive with 4.75 oz of top. Time for some deeeeep fingers.
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Re: heavy top weighted layouts?
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2015, 03:38:27 PM »
the lx16 has normal mb placement and cg placement, it's just the heavy 5oz topweight
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Re: heavy top weighted layouts?
« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2015, 04:30:15 PM »
The first thing to do with a ball that has unusual top weight or pin out is to confirm the cg location and top weight on a dodo scale.  --  JohnP
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Re: heavy top weighted layouts?
« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2015, 04:44:45 PM »
Removing 2 ounces of top weight wont be an issue. You are good.
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Re: heavy top weighted layouts?
« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2015, 05:04:34 PM »
I wish my fingers weren't 11/16 and 21/32. :(
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Re: heavy top weighted layouts?
« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2015, 07:57:35 PM »
 With that topweight, you will need to keep it closer to the center of grip than otherwise, but with the use of deeper finger/thumb holes, and a strategically placed weight hole, you should be able to get it done.

 This is where the pin distance comes into play with this ball.

 A shorter pin out gives you more flexibility with the MB placement, but less with the pin placement. A longer pin out gives you more flexibility with the pin placement, but less with the MB.

 What is he hoping to accomplish with this ball?
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Re: heavy top weighted layouts?
« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2015, 10:46:03 PM »
Quote from: Juggernaut on January 29, 2015, 07:57:35 PM
With that topweight, you will need to keep it closer to the center of grip than otherwise, but with the use of deeper finger/thumb holes, and a strategically placed weight hole, you should be able to get it done.

 This is where the pin distance comes into play with this ball.

 A shorter pin out gives you more flexibility with the MB placement, but less with the pin placement. A longer pin out gives you more flexibility with the pin placement, but less with the MB.

 What is he hoping to accomplish with this ball?
as long as it hooks, he'll be happy, i was reading somewhere that the heavier the top weight, the further it wants to get down the lane before it starts to hook, makes me believe the ball wont do nothing for him, he doesn't have a ton of hand, but he gets a fair amount(idk about exact rev rate) and does swing the ball a bit
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