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Asura

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Help with dual angle
« on: November 01, 2008, 09:13:56 PM »
Hi guys, especially drilling gurus. Just some questions on dual angle layout:
1)  What is the effect of having large angle for MB-Pin-PAP to the small angle? (currently i'm assuming that it will dictate/show the shape of hooking motion e.g. arc to angular)

2)  What is the effect of having larger Pin-PAP-VAL angle in contrast to the small angle? (I'm asuming that larger angle will cause the ball to skid longer)

Please correct me if i'm wrong. Thanks in advance.

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leftyinsnellville

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Re: Help with dual angle
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2008, 04:30:11 AM »
From MO:

"If the two angles add up to 30°, the ball will transition as quickly as possible. If the two angles add up to 160°, the ball will transition as slow as possible. Keep the sum of the two angles between 30° and 160° to create effective ball reactions while still allowing the ball to maintain hitting power. Yet the drilling angle must still be kept between 10°and 90° and the angle to the VAL between 20° and approximately 70° (depending on the bowler's track).

Smaller angle sums should always be used for:

 Speed dominant players  
 Higher axis tilt players  
 Longer oil patterns
 Higher volumes of oil on the lane

Larger angle sums should always be used for:

 Rev dominant players
 Lower axis tilt players
 Shorter oil patterns
 Lower volumes of oil on the lane

Medium angle sums should always be used for players whose ball speed and rev rate match.

Keep this in mind -- the sum of the drilling angle and the angle to the VAL determines how quickly the ball transitions from skid to hook to roll. Using a smaller sum of the two angles will turn translational energy into rotational energy faster.  And the shape of the breakpoint can be controlled by changing the relationship between the drilling angle and the angle to the VAL.


bluerrpilot

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Re: Help with dual angle
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2008, 10:05:14 AM »
1) Smaller angles for the MB-pin-pap line will roll sooner. Larger angles will roll later.


2) Smaller angles for the pin-pap-val will create quicker responses to friction (very sharp and angular off the spot) Larger angles will be smoother off the spot

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moooorich

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Re: Help with dual angle
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2008, 10:20:48 AM »
check out the breakdown on Mo's website.........Morichbowling.com. There's a section for seminars, click in "dual angle layout". Excellent article with pics!!
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Asura

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Re: Help with dual angle
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2008, 03:55:19 AM »
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1) Smaller angles for the MB-pin-pap line will roll sooner. Larger angles will roll later.


2) Smaller angles for the pin-pap-val will create quicker responses to friction (very sharp and angular off the spot) Larger angles will be smoother off the spot

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This is the answer I'm looking for. Thank you!

Anyway, I've just visited Mo's website on dual angle techniques and finally understand how the Drilling angle and Val angle influence the ball reaction. Thank you guys!
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