Author Topic: Home Based Drillers (Read 8013 times)

Gunny · « **on:** January 03, 2007, 10:11:00 PM »

i have been looking into drilling at home now instead of the shop. i drive an hour one way to the shop to help out but the drive is killing me. just wanted to know from you home based drillers on what type of drill press,scale and equipment do you use. most of my drillings will be for me and my friends. i know the press at the shop was expensive and not looking to spend that type of dough. any help would be appreciated.

jkiser01 · « **Reply #1 on:** January 04, 2007, 06:19:44 AM »

If you have a cheap drill press and jig, your looking at nothing but trouble. The pitches won't be right and all kinds of other problems. If your gonna do it, spend the money and get a decent set up.

Just my 2 cents..
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Gunny · « **Reply #2 on:** January 04, 2007, 06:41:14 AM »

i plan on spending a decent amount of money, just curious on any other good presses out there besides the 2500 dollar one.

YeahHossNV · « **Reply #3 on:** January 04, 2007, 08:12:05 AM »

$2500 aint gonna get you far in this industry. All you can get for that is a drill press and their too flimsy to cut down plug or do ovals and I say that because sure you might be able to get away with that but if you are going to drill your own stuff then why settle for less than a perfect grip. And you can always make some money back by saving each time you drill your own ball and also if you have family or close friends that bowl. If you get a mill/drill you get what you pay for and it will last forever if given a little maintenance and you can do anything you need to with it.

Mill/drills run from $5,588.89 for the Ebonite Power House deluxe 3-point mill drill to about $10,000 for a Ovalmatic system three.

here are a list of the websites check all of them out and if you have any questions feel free to e-mail me. I'm sending my email address in a pm.

Ebonite - http://ebonite.com/products/proshop.php

Innovative - https://www.shop.innovativebowling.com/splashPage.hg(they just added the e-commerce part of the site, so not all the product photos are there)

Jayhawk - http://jayhawkbowling.com/proshop.html

Precision Bowling products (ovalmatic) - http://www.precisionbowlingproducts.com/

Ultimate Bowling Products (not the actual photo of the jig) -
http://www.ultimatebowling.com/
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Moon57 · « **Reply #4 on:** January 04, 2007, 10:43:10 AM »

So what you guys are saying is that the drill press and basic jig that Innovative Bowling sells for $1995 is junk?
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YeahHossNV · « **Reply #5 on:** January 04, 2007, 12:58:11 PM »

Not necessarily junk but you would be restricted with what you can do. theres a lot more give in a drill press. There virtually no give in it because they were designed to mill metal and steel. And not to mention you dont have digital pitch gauges so accuracy is lost. It is also a bad idea to cut plug down with them because of all the give in the x and y tables. I own both the Jayhawk Mini Mill and a Precision Ovalmatic and am considering buying a System Three. I have also used the AMF vacujig, Tri-Oval, Ovalmaker, the Innovative Mill Drill with heavy duty jig, the Ultimatic jig. I just say its better to have a basic mill/drill that can do anything that you could want or grow into as times goes by and your interest in ball drilling grows you will have what you need than be like me and get something cheaper and spend your days in frustration when it's lacking the capabilities you need. And if that happens you will have to get a better one anyway. You can at least call, Ebonite, Jayhawk, Innovative, and Precision Bowling Products and see if they have any refurbished machines. They just as good as new and cheaper.
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qstick777 · « **Reply #6 on:** January 04, 2007, 04:28:07 PM »

Honestly, I don't know if I can agree with the others on this.

How many balls are you planning on drilling?

I think you would be fine with one of the cheaper set ups, but in no way is it going to be "cheap."

I think the $2000 set up from Innovative or Jayhawk would be fine for drilling up your own stuff and some stuff for friends.

Don't forget the drill bits - average around $40 each - if you are just doing your own you really only need whatever sizes you use.

The scale is going to be pricey. Around $1050 new, and pretty difficult to find used.

If you are going to be plugging, you'll need plug material. Around $130 for 2 gals, and $50-90 for color mix (depending on which plug you go with).

Then, you'll need all the layout tools - pro sect/quarter scale, span ruler, pitch gauges, etc. $45-75, $25-50, $40-140+

Then the other misc things - bevel sander, router/shield for plug cutting, plug cutter blade. $75,

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You might be able to find a used system on eBay, but few people are willing to ship, so you'll have to pick up. Good luck finding something close to you!

There is actually an Innovative press, jig and bits listed on ebay now, in Michigan or looks like he is willing to ship.

You can contact Jayhawk Bowling and they will send you a price list - http://www.jayhawkbowling.com/Contact%20Us/contact.html

Or you check out innovative's site for pricing......all pricing seems to be pretty close.

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Gunny · « **Reply #7 on:** January 04, 2007, 04:59:03 PM »

i dont plan on drilling balls in mass quantities. just when i need them. i would say 10-20 a year, counting friends, family and the wifey. all the other supplies i have...pro sect, pitch gauges, bevel sander, yada yada yada. last few balls i have laid out myself and had the guy at the shop punch it up, and all have come out with the reactions i wanted. im not looking to open a shop or anything, just something to help with my bowling addiction.

novawagonmaster · « **Reply #8 on:** January 04, 2007, 05:04:45 PM »

I think I lucked out by finding a trusty Gil-Mac press in good shape (with 50 bits and a plug cutter). I also scored the scale in the same deal. The press, bits, and scale are definitely the most expensive pieces of the puzzle. Add in everything else needed as others have mentioned, and it adds up quickly. However, all said and done, I am in business for about $2200.00
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Gunny · « **Reply #9 on:** January 04, 2007, 05:08:49 PM »

great deal on that. maybe i'll have the same luck

azguy · « **Reply #10 on:** January 04, 2007, 05:11:35 PM »

I got my drill/jig from a K<art that was selling out of the ball/bag/shoe part of it, I spent way less than that. True, it's older, but it's a start and the money I've made will go to a better set up in the future.

Sears had a nice drill press for less than $700, but then you'd have to find the jig. There's usually a few on ebay or find a shop that is upgrading and buy the older one, just a thought.
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Gunny · « **Reply #11 on:** January 04, 2007, 05:14:52 PM »

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I got my drill/jig from a K<art that was selling out of the ball/bag/shoe part of it, I spent way less than that. True, it's older, but it's a start and the money I've made will go to a better set up in the future.

Sears had a nice drill press for less than $700, but then you'd have to find the jig. There's usually a few on ebay or find a shop that is upgrading and buy the older one, just a thought.

i thought about getting a press from sears, but didnt know if it would work or not. i get 15% off there so believe me it was a thought. i can get a jig for a decent price. maybe i'll get lucky this year.

luv2C10falll · « **Reply #12 on:** January 04, 2007, 05:30:22 PM »

I got a press from home depot(350.00) an brand new jig on ebay(300.00)24 piece drill set on ebay(225.00),jonell pitch gauges,a really good quarter scale an amf dodo scale from the pro shop I use to go to.And alot of help from a few friends.Alittle tip ,start with a junk ball untill you get things down.I only drill my own an a few friends come over to drill thiers.I have been drilling my own for 6 rys an I can do just as good as my pro shop guy did(as long as Im drilling my own stuff)Its just like anything else,you need to practice to get good
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azguy · « **Reply #13 on:** January 04, 2007, 06:50:40 PM »

"luv" is correct, find an old "junk" ball to do your first few drills. I had an old scratched W/D and that's also the way I learned plugging/finishing . That poor ball didn't have a square inch that wasn't drilled/plugged. I also got an old Wild that the lanes had replaced the ball, machine tore it up, but it was great practice to plug/resurface and then drill.

On the Sears/Home Depot/Lowes drill press, just make sure you have enough travel distance so you don't have to take out the ball just to change bits.

Good Luck !
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sunsetlefty · « **Reply #14 on:** January 04, 2007, 08:35:56 PM »

I bought a used Delta bench top drill press and Rudell jig setup from a pro shop operator who had an extra setup. I refurbished the jig (by researching who manufactured the jigs and still supported them) and started picking up other pro shop items just like luv2C10fall did. It wasn't always easy finding what I wanted at a fair price. However, It can be done.

You can do home drilling IF you are determined enough to research the web, post on all the bowling websites, and keep your eyes open on places like E-bay and local pro shops. My home pro shop is as good as many brick and mortar shops, and I've got less than $2,000 into it. (Well, I am looking for a way to get a milling table onto my drill press).

Don't ever believe anyone that tells you that it can't be done..........

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