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ToppDogg

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i cant stop grabing it
« on: March 03, 2008, 11:12:22 PM »
need to get out of my thumb faster do i make it tighter so i cant grab it or put a faster pitch in the thumb my span is 4 3/8 i use a 1/4 forward now think of putting 3/8 maybe 1/2

 

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Re: i cant stop grabing it
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2008, 08:30:29 AM »
Topp Dogg, I'm not a coach - just an average league bowler.  But I've had the same problem and have been told by a coach that not a tight thumb hole, but rather a snug fitting thumb hole works fine - just snug enough to allow you to relax your grip during the downswing (also helps provide a free arm swing because you're not grabbing the ball).  

Staying behind the ball all the way until the thumb starts to come out also helps because if you come around the side of the ball too soon, gravity pulls the ball off your thumb too early and you will grab it.  Staying behind the ball during the downswing, and letting the ball fall, all the way until the release will allow gravity to keep the ball on your hand with a relaxed grip. (it's like swinging a bucket of water instead of a bowling ball - if you let your arm fall back and forth, gravity keeps the water in the bucket, but if you turn the bucket to the side the water will fall out).  

A relaxed grip, a relaxed arm-swing, and staying behind the ball I believe is the key.  It's helped me.

Also, psychologically, its helpful to not tell yourself "don't grab the release" because then your focus is on grabbing the release.  It's better to think something positive like "relax the thumb."  The only pressure at the release should be applied by the middle and ring fingers.

ToppDogg

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Re: i cant stop grabing it
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2008, 08:37:30 AM »
thx for the info i will try that

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Re: i cant stop grabing it
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2008, 08:40:21 AM »
Ohh, I thought you were talking about something else.  I was gonna advise you to get married, LOL.
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Re: i cant stop grabing it
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2008, 09:09:11 AM »
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Ohh, I thought you were talking about something else. I was gonna advise you to get married, LOL.
 


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Re: i cant stop grabing it
« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2008, 11:23:46 AM »
ToppDogg, Bowlin for Beer is right on the money. Once you relax your arm and are behind the ball if you still experience issues here are some minor things to try as well. First, when you stand on the approach with your hand in the ball squeeze the ball as tight as possible for a couple of seconds and then relax your hand just. Do this just before you start your approach. That will cause the muscles in your hand to relax and promotes a relaxed grip. Second, when you place your thumb in the ball be conscious of the position of your thumb in the thumb hole. Your thumb should be straight; your knuckle should not be bent. apply slight pressure on the thumb hole by pinching the hole with your thumb straight. If you have your thumb bent in the thumb hole your will most likely grab it at either the top or bottom (or both) of your swing.

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Re: i cant stop grabing it
« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2008, 11:28:30 AM »
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Ohh, I thought you were talking about something else.  I was gonna advise you to get married, LOL.
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lol or atleast get a girlfriend..lol

But they make the forearm things that wrap around it and puts pressure on the forearm. This helps you from being able to grip the ball subcontiously without you knowing it. You can still grip the ball too hard and pull the shot but with the forearm brace it helps keep you from doing that so easy.
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Re: i cant stop grabing it
« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2008, 02:51:47 PM »
sent you a PM of how I fixed my "hanging onto the ball to long" problem.

ToppDogg

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Re: i cant stop grabing it
« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2008, 07:44:15 PM »
thx for all the info but beer for bowling was right i was rushing the swing forward turning my hand early and grabing on to it i slow down my first step and the timing got back in lline i  stoping and releasing the ball i was fliping out the ball like norm duke or like pa thx thx thx thx i was about to quit the sport

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Re: i cant stop grabing it
« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2008, 08:53:33 PM »
putting more forward pitch on the thumb will make you stay in it longer.  forward pitch always goes towards the center of your span.  reverse 1/4 to make you pitch 0 or you could even to to 1/4 reverse (but that would be a pretty drastic move).  I would say go to a zero pitch.
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Re: i cant stop grabing it
« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2008, 09:33:48 PM »
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putting more forward pitch on the thumb will make you stay in it longer.  forward pitch always goes towards the center of your span.  reverse 1/4 to make you pitch 0 or you could even to to 1/4 reverse (but that would be a pretty drastic move).  I would say go to a zero pitch.
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I was about to quote his origional post for that.  If you want to get out of the ball easier and do so with pitch, adding reverse will help you get out of it without any "hang".  I have to keep my thumb hole fairly tight or the ball will slide off, because I use about 3/8 reverse as apposed to being neutral or foreward.  You should be much more comfortable this way.

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