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Stormkid84

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"Trick Layouts"
« on: January 13, 2009, 02:24:40 AM »
Could someone please explain some trick layouts?  I'm curious about what some will do?  I belive some may help me, being a mid speed, high rev player.  I read this on Storm's website from the Cheetah Championship:
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Rhino used a Hy-Road and a trick drilled T-Road Pearl I drilled for him the last round of match play. The reason I say trick drilled is because I put the pin in the center of grip with the cg on his grip line just below his fingers, and because the ball had a lot of top weight to start. I put a balance hole ½” above his bridge and pitched it 2” away from his fingers. The ball rolled good, just didn’t carry enough 7 pins to get him to the show, maybe next week.
 


I've been tempted to try something like this because I really stuggle on short/light oil.  Anyone use any trick drillings similar or any luck with any of them?
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My buddy with front 8: "Me too!"
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skbowl800

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Re: "Trick Layouts"
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2009, 11:13:14 AM »
so the pin was below the cg?
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Stormkid84

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Re: "Trick Layouts"
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2009, 11:34:15 AM »
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so the pin was below the cg?
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That is corect.  I belive it would look like this:
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Me: "These lanes are tight. I have 2 boards!"
My buddy with front 8: "Me too!"
Me: "Yeah, but yours both have arrows on them, and an arrow in between!"
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JessN16

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Re: "Trick Layouts"
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2009, 01:16:55 PM »
That's somewhat of a "Girard layout," but in a Girard the pin typically ends up below the thumb. I'm betting the weight hole was only to get it legal.

Jess
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Russell

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Re: "Trick Layouts"
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2009, 05:59:06 PM »
Many times people struggle on short oil because they to use equipment that it too weak and drilled to go too long.  What kind of balls/layouts are you using now that what kind of reaction do you get?
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Mike Austin

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Re: "Trick Layouts"
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2009, 11:19:17 PM »
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Could someone please explain some trick layouts?  I'm curious about what some will do?  I belive some may help me, being a mid speed, high rev player.  I read this on Storm's website from the Cheetah Championship:
quote:
Rhino used a Hy-Road and a trick drilled T-Road Pearl I drilled for him the last round of match play. The reason I say trick drilled is because I put the pin in the center of grip with the cg on his grip line just below his fingers, and because the ball had a lot of top weight to start. I put a balance hole ½” above his bridge and pitched it 2” away from his fingers. The ball rolled good, just didn’t carry enough 7 pins to get him to the show, maybe next week.
 


I've been tempted to try something like this because I really stuggle on short/light oil.  Anyone use any trick drillings similar or any luck with any of them?
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Me: "These lanes are tight. I have 2 boards!"
My buddy with front 8: "Me too!"
Me: "Yeah, but yours both have arrows on them, and an arrow in between!"


I had a Fired Up Diablo with the pin right above the thumb and the cg at/above grip center, no hole.  Man, did I LOVE this ball.  It was a turd on the THS a lot of the time, but that is not what it was designed for.

This Diablo just would not go sideways down the lane.  You could see it revving/flaring/working all the way through the pin deck, but it was like an optical illusion.  The ball worked AWESOME on sport shot type conditions, flat conditions that didn't offer a lot of hold in the middle.  This ball created tons of hold for me.

I used it with the box surface.  Seemed like the uglier the lanes were the better this ball worked.  I won a scratch tournament on a sport type shot.  6 games and then a 16 man bracket, best of 5 match play.  Nobody averaged over 195, I averaged 210.  The final match, the kid conceded after I was up 2-0.  The lanes were toasty, I just had the nuts.

Don't be afraid to try this stuff, just have to watch where the bowtie will be.  If you track high, you could clip the finger holes.  Even as low as my track is, I clipped the middle finger right at the pocket, but you could only hear it if the bowling center was about empty.

BTW, this ball split in half sitting in my garage last winter, ugggh!

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Stormkid84

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Re: "Trick Layouts"
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2009, 08:04:45 AM »
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Many times people struggle on short oil because they to use equipment that it too weak and drilled to go too long.  What kind of balls/layouts are you using now that what kind of reaction do you get?
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I have a Jolt solid drilled like a lefty leverage so, cg in palm (5 3/8" from

pap) pin in my track.  I also have a Street Rod Pearl stacked pin below bridge

cg above thumb.  Always on drier/shorter I get wicked bad over/under. Because

of my roll, if I use a weaker release, I go real flat.  I will get a video of

me bowling up soon, because I keep hearing, "use a weaker release" of "take

some hand out of it", but even my teammates (very well respected bowlers all

over the country) tell me to shell down, and all I do is plack.  And, I don't

like sacrificing carry with a plastic ball (even though I shot 260 a couple

weeks ago), I'd rather be able to throw something and have it retain energy

all the way through the pin deck.  Sorry for the long rant and the plastic

ball FIGJAM, its just so frustrating bowling in a NEBA, and going +80 through

3, and then finishing close to - cause I can't play dry lanes
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Me: "These lanes are tight. I have 2 boards!"
My buddy with front 8: "Me too!"
Me: "Yeah, but yours both have arrows on them, and an arrow in between!"
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