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Brickguy221

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Increasing Differential - Flare on Bowlingball
« on: February 24, 2015, 03:17:31 PM »
To increase the Differential - Flare on a bowling ball, where is the best place to drill the weight hole as well as what size, how deep, direction of hole, etc?

Also on this same ball, in order to maximize the flare, should the Pin to PAP be 3 3/8 to 3 1/2 ?

And if so, will the weight hole increase the flare further?
« Last Edit: February 24, 2015, 03:24:19 PM by Brickguy221 »
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Re: Increasing Differential - Flare on Bowlingball
« Reply #16 on: February 26, 2015, 04:00:52 PM »
First and foremost is the amount of flare created by pin to pap distance...and keep in mind, more flare is not always good as too much creates instability or over-flaring
Wright holes and mass bias positions only effect existing flare created by pin to pap distance
The strongest position for a weight hole on a symmetrical core ball is 6.75" from the primary pin or low RG axis and 3.375" from pap
On a asymmetrical core ball, defendant on existing drilled flare and how mass boss is created, a weight hole in the mass bias will increase diff or flare

Not trying to be a PITA here, but 6.75 from the Pin and 3.375 from the PAP can be at two different places on the ball.  One would be more towards your grip center and one more away from your grip center (relative to your PAP).  Isn't that correct?  Does it matter which direction you go?

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Re: Increasing Differential - Flare on Bowlingball
« Reply #17 on: February 26, 2015, 06:11:58 PM »
If you draw circles around both points, one 3.375" around the pap and the other, 6.75" around the pin, where those two circles dissect is where to place the hole
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Re: Increasing Differential - Flare on Bowlingball
« Reply #18 on: February 27, 2015, 07:59:30 AM »
If you draw circles around both points, one 3.375" around the pap and the other, 6.75" around the pin, where those two circles dissect is where to place the hole

So are you assuming a 3.375 Pin to PAP distance?  Because for me I get two intersection points for all pin to PAP distances between 3.375 and 6.75, and none for P2P distances less than 3.375 and greater than 6.75 (which probably don't exist).

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Re: Increasing Differential - Flare on Bowlingball
« Reply #19 on: February 27, 2015, 08:11:57 AM »
I'm not assuming anything
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Re: Increasing Differential - Flare on Bowlingball
« Reply #20 on: February 27, 2015, 12:20:56 PM »
If you draw circles around both points, one 3.375" around the pap and the other, 6.75" around the pin, where those two circles dissect is where to place the hole

So are you assuming a 3.375 Pin to PAP distance?  Because for me I get two intersection points for all pin to PAP distances between 3.375 and 6.75, and none for P2P distances less than 3.375 and greater than 6.75 (which probably don't exist).

I think you would want the hole on the left side of the VAL.  More toward your grip.

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Re: Increasing Differential - Flare on Bowlingball
« Reply #21 on: February 27, 2015, 12:37:08 PM »
I think you would want the hole on the left side of the VAL.  More toward your grip.

According to Brunswick, closer to the grip center to reduce flare, and past the Val for more flare as described below.   Although I would prefer to clean that up by saying closer to the primary pin from your PAP for less flare (going alone a line drawn from your PAP to the Pin), and further away from your PAP for more flare.  My understanding is that as your drill the hole closer to the pin, you take out material from the top of the core, and make the core shorter and fatter, thus less differential and hook.  Going past your PAP would be drilling more from the center of the core, increasing the differential and the track flare.


"Brunswick is recommending a simplified one-hole size/ two-hole position technique that covers the vast majority of ball reaction changes that can be accomplished by drilling an X-hole.

Use a 1" drill bit, 3" deep, to both increase or decrease track flare
Note: Larger and deeper X-holes result only in slightly greater increases or decreases in track flare. The one-hole size technique has the added advantage of avoiding problems with illegal static weights. As long as the ball was originally laid out with at least 3/4 oz of positive side weight and a small amount of finger/thumb weight, the 1" X 3" hole using either of Brunswick's recommended X-hole positions will keep you out of static weight trouble.

Brunswick recommends using a position 2 1/4" past the bowlers axis to increase flare, and using a position 2 1/4" back toward the pin to decrease flare. Using the line connecting the bowlers "axis" and the "pin" as reference line (see Diagram). The X-holes should be on or slightly below the reference line (holes on the line will sometimes drop the narrow point of the track and cause the track to flare over the finger holes)."


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Re: Increasing Differential - Flare on Bowlingball
« Reply #22 on: February 27, 2015, 12:51:03 PM »
Anywhere 6.75 " from the pin is going to increase the flare. I'm not completely sure on why the 3.375" from the PAP for the hole, but I think it is making the best use of the asymmetry that is created by the hole.

JustRico, can you explain this further?
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Re: Increasing Differential - Flare on Bowlingball
« Reply #23 on: February 27, 2015, 02:25:45 PM »
First of all, the Brunswick, info there's a good chance I wrote that for them 10 or so years ago while I was employed there

3.375" from the pap is the strongest position for the core to create max flare potential and for a weight hole to increase flare
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Re: Increasing Differential - Flare on Bowlingball
« Reply #24 on: February 27, 2015, 02:47:33 PM »
I have an off the wall idea, why not just drill a ball that already has more differential?? I know it's kind of a crazy idea, and there aren't hardly any releases throughout a year, that offer different RG and differential combos's as well as cover choices from different manufactures, to be able to pick a ball that would be more suitable for the intended purpose. Just sayin'   :D 8)


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