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Just wondering how a .5 inch to 1 inch pin affects the ball
« on: October 03, 2014, 06:53:57 AM »
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Re: Just wondering how a .5 inch to 1 inch pin affects the ball
« Reply #16 on: October 03, 2014, 10:10:25 PM »
I have a one inch pin melee, and it has become my favorite ball in some time.  When I picked it up at first I was really concerned, but after I used it the worry was gone.

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Re: Just wondering how a .5 inch to 1 inch pin affects the ball
« Reply #17 on: October 03, 2014, 11:33:37 PM »
Kidlost, why do you think they call Propins "propins"? They're cheater balls. #proscheat #notcool

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Re: Just wondering how a .5 inch to 1 inch pin affects the ball
« Reply #18 on: October 04, 2014, 12:07:17 AM »
Because instead of calling them 2nds and blems bowlingball.com figured out how to make bowlers pay more for 2nd quality product. #increasedprofits #consumerfail

…… you can't  add a physics term to a bowling term and expect it to mean something.

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Re: Just wondering how a .5 inch to 1 inch pin affects the ball
« Reply #19 on: October 04, 2014, 02:04:19 AM »
Kidlost, why do you think they call Propins "propins"? They're cheater balls. #proscheat #notcool

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 Doom, why do you think they call reactive balls "Reactive"?   They're ALL cheater balls.
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Re: Just wondering how a .5 inch to 1 inch pin affects the ball
« Reply #20 on: October 04, 2014, 09:08:29 AM »
My sarcasm font seemingly didn't show up. :)

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Re: Just wondering how a .5 inch to 1 inch pin affects the ball
« Reply #21 on: October 04, 2014, 09:22:51 AM »
This is the first and last time I'm weighing in on the CG stuff. If it didn't matter (the CG) why is it marked on practically every bowling ball? To me, its apparent, it matters to the ball companies enough to mark them.

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Re: Just wondering how a .5 inch to 1 inch pin affects the ball
« Reply #22 on: October 04, 2014, 09:24:44 AM »
Remember when 2nds use to be cheap cheap because they didn't have the manufactures name and logo on them? Just Hurricane, or Legacy, or Bonanza. You had to guess what the ball may be based on color. Then they started putting all of the logos on there along with an X and the price went from $25 or so a ball to $50-70.

Then Rotogrip/Storm and bowlingball.com started calling them pro pins and procgs depending on the blems type and actually started selling them at $10 less to $10 above the cost of a first quantity ball which was hilarious. Still many manufactures continued calling them 2nds and blems and their price stayed around 30-40% below the cost of first quality ball.

Yes there marketing idea was "pros" loved them because they could do real unique/"exotic" layouts ect ect. Yes when a ball has a cg 3-4" out of line between the pin and mb you could get some great layouts alright. Or better yet having a ball with a 5-12" pin is great too. Really unique reaction......oh wait no it doesn't. Well it sounds great and I am sure joe bowler will buy it.

The only unique thing was in some cases you ended up putting things in places to make it legal you normally wouldn't do because you had no other options and hopefully the ball would still roll great because of everything else that factored in.








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Re: Just wondering how a .5 inch to 1 inch pin affects the ball
« Reply #23 on: October 04, 2014, 09:27:45 AM »
This is the first and last time I'm weighing in on the CG stuff. If it didn't matter (the CG) why is it marked on practically every bowling ball? To me, its apparent, it matters to the ball companies enough to mark them.

Only reasonable replies please, no condescending remarks, no sarcasm, and no videos of someone standing on top of dirt hitting up on plastic to convey their point, thanks much.

It marks static weight. If you do not mark it you have to find it before drilling other wise you will have a lot of illegal bowling balls by USBC rules. I can throw that plastic ball on anyones house shot. Don't think it wont strike.
« Last Edit: October 04, 2014, 09:29:42 AM by kidlost2000 »
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Re: Just wondering how a .5 inch to 1 inch pin affects the ball
« Reply #24 on: October 04, 2014, 09:30:04 AM »
First of all I was unaware that there were rules when responding to a post...so in other words, only responses that strengthen my point and no one else's?
Center of gravity is a mark on the ball and is in regards to static weight rules...now if you wish to discount the scientific proof that CGs are about as relevant as floor mats in a vehicle, that's your prerogative but your post can be as condescending as any due to your views...a pin out or top weight is created by a manual shift of the core in regards to the true center of the mass...plain & simple
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Re: Just wondering how a .5 inch to 1 inch pin affects the ball
« Reply #25 on: October 04, 2014, 01:14:56 PM »
So lets just remove CG markings from the ball, I mean, they don't matter anyway right?
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Re: Just wondering how a .5 inch to 1 inch pin affects the ball
« Reply #26 on: October 04, 2014, 01:20:00 PM »
Aa long as its a USBC rule they are necessary guess you missed that part
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Re: Just wondering how a .5 inch to 1 inch pin affects the ball
« Reply #27 on: October 04, 2014, 04:13:37 PM »
If the USBC only weighs bowling balls at one tournament for static weights you can argue that the static weight rule does not exits for most bowlers.

If you have 2oz side weight in a ball no one would know other wise.
« Last Edit: October 04, 2014, 06:17:59 PM by kidlost2000 »
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Re: Just wondering how a .5 inch to 1 inch pin affects the ball
« Reply #28 on: October 04, 2014, 05:28:05 PM »
My question to you, kidlost, is this...

Why isn't that Code a 15? :P

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Re: Just wondering how a .5 inch to 1 inch pin affects the ball
« Reply #29 on: October 04, 2014, 06:22:29 PM »
The guy im selling it for has more 14 stuff then 15.

Several hard to find 14 actually. Does me no good.
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Re: Just wondering how a .5 inch to 1 inch pin affects the ball
« Reply #30 on: October 04, 2014, 07:06:35 PM »
If the USBC only weighs bowling balls at one tournament for static weights you can argue that the static weight rule does not exits for most bowlers.

If you have 2oz side weight in a ball no one would know other wise.

Just like you could argue it matters if for nothing more than static weights.
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