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Title: Label Leverage Drilling
Post by: Sir Bowl-A-Lot on January 12, 2006, 05:35:15 AM
I have tried many many types of layouts but I have found that a simple label leverage drilling works the best for me on a THS.  When I say "Label Leverage Drilling" I mean putting the pin 3.5" from my PAP (to the right of my ring) and placing the CG at the center of my grip.

Anyone else find that this drilling just seems to work the best for them on their typical house shot?  For me, it provides decent length, a good read in the midlane, and an aggressive backend.  The ball also hits very hard to boot.
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Title: Re: Label Leverage Drilling
Post by: da Shiv on January 12, 2006, 01:40:59 PM
I agree with your assessment, and use that drilling a lot.  I have found it particularly effective on Buzzsaws.

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Title: Re: Label Leverage Drilling
Post by: tekneek on January 12, 2006, 01:47:19 PM
Works for some but not all.
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Title: Re: Label Leverage Drilling
Post by: mickey on January 12, 2006, 01:52:53 PM
i have that drilling on my uranium pearl and gold nugget, works great for me.
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Title: Re: Label Leverage Drilling
Post by: Sir Bowl-A-Lot on January 12, 2006, 06:52:20 PM
ttt
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Title: Re: Label Leverage Drilling
Post by: DukeHarding on January 12, 2006, 11:08:49 PM
I used that drilling for 7-8 years, and always liked it on a THS.
I always kept the same layout, and used different coverstocks.

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Title: Re: Label Leverage Drilling
Post by: Sir Bowl-A-Lot on January 13, 2006, 08:06:48 AM
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Title: Re: Label Leverage Drilling
Post by: splendorlex on January 13, 2006, 08:15:15 AM
I personally use this drilling as well.  The only exceptions to this are balls that I traded for and just moved the thumb a bit, keeping the basic layout.  I haven't had nearly the success with these other layouts, though.  Everything I buy new is label leverage, and I think from now on I'll fully plug and redrill everything else I pick up.
Title: Re: Label Leverage Drilling
Post by: dizzyfugu on January 13, 2006, 08:30:23 AM
I only have 1 ball with a true leverage drilling, and it is a Blade Particle I only use on heavy oil. On less, the ball would burn up and lose its energy beforehand.

Best drilling for me so far seems to be pin above the rinmg finger with mb in strong position next to thumb. Any position closer to my PAP (not to speak of a 3 3(8" drilling) only results in too much ball movement since I play rather slow and with some good hand.
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Title: Re: Label Leverage Drilling
Post by: charlest on January 13, 2006, 08:36:14 AM
Ironic that no one has mentioned that this may work well because the ball is designed to work well for that oil amount and pattern (whatever your house shot is; they are 347 of them, more or less) AND for that bowler's release and delivery.

Remember that people often try to force balls  to work on "house shots" by using unusual drillings, ranging from "rev leverage" to pins in the track or on the PAP. These balls, if they work properly with these drillings are obviously not designed for that oil pattern plus that bowler's release.

Be careful when you assume.

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Edited on 1/13/2006 9:24 AM
Title: Re: Label Leverage Drilling
Post by: Sir Bowl-A-Lot on January 13, 2006, 08:42:48 AM
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Ironic that no one has mentioned that this may work well because the ball is designed to work well for that oil amount and pattern (whatever your house shot is; they are 347 of them, more or less) AND for that bowler's release and delivery.

Remember that people often try to force balls  to work on "house shots" by using unusual drillings, ranging from "rev leverage" to pins in the track or on the PAP. These balls, if they work properly with these drillings are obviously not designed for that oil pattern plus that bowler's release.

Be careful when you assume.

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Edited on 1/13/2006 9:24 AM


Hence why I said "a simple label leverage drilling works the best for me on a THS."
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Title: Re: Label Leverage Drilling
Post by: Sir Bowl-A-Lot on January 13, 2006, 09:40:25 AM
Wow, every ball I've drilled with the MB in a "Strong" position (just right of thumb) goes too long down the lane and leaves corner pins unless I am high flush...
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Edited on 1/13/2006 10:28 AM
Title: Re: Label Leverage Drilling
Post by: Strapper_Squared on January 13, 2006, 11:15:32 AM
I think it is a great layout... grew up with this layout because my local hick ball driller didn't know any better... if you wanted a stronger reaction, he would shift the label to the right a touch (righty of course)...  I have NEVER seen him, even to this day, use a weight hole..  Now that I'm all grown up and drill my own equipment most of the time, I have found myself going back to that layout... maybe because I grew up throwing it and was used to it???  or maybe it just works...
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Title: Re: Label Leverage Drilling
Post by: charlest on January 13, 2006, 05:40:08 PM
quote:
Wow, every ball I've drilled with the MB in a "Strong" position (just right of thumb) goes too long down the lane and leaves corner pins unless I am high flush...
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because your ball speed is greater than your rev rate, yo uneed a lower pin-MB distance than people whose rev rate is proportionate to their ball speed or whose rev rate is greater than their ball speed.

This is one of those cases where a factor of the release & the delivery must be considered when trying to get the right ball reaction. Instead of a 4-5" pin-MB distance (MB just to the right of the thumb hole), you probably need a 1"-3" pin-MB distance or even a MB on or past the VAL. Hasn't a MoRich, Track or Storm Paradigm asymmetric technical person ever suggested such to you?

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Title: Re: Label Leverage Drilling
Post by: charlest on January 13, 2006, 05:41:52 PM
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Ironic that no one has mentioned that this may work well because the ball is designed to work well for that oil amount and pattern (whatever your house shot is; they are 347 of them, more or less) AND for that bowler's release and delivery.

Remember that people often try to force balls  to work on "house shots" by using unusual drillings, ranging from "rev leverage" to pins in the track or on the PAP. These balls, if they work properly with these drillings are obviously not designed for that oil pattern plus that bowler's release.

Be careful when you assume.

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Edited on 1/13/2006 9:24 AM


Hence why I said "a simple label leverage drilling works the best for me on a THS."
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But you implied this is right for all balls on a house shot. As I explained, that "ain't necessarily so."  It highly depends on the ball. You may have chosen the right ball or close to the right ball every time ... so far.
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Title: Re: Label Leverage Drilling
Post by: Tweener92 on January 13, 2006, 05:50:35 PM
The only ball that I have drilled like that is a Triton Heat Elite. I just pulled that ball out two weeks ago it moves harder than anything newer that I have drilled up. It still hits hard. The funny this is that people come up to me and ask " Is that a new release? I haven't heard anything about a purple ball!" I kind of get a chuckle out of it.
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Title: Re: Label Leverage Drilling
Post by: LuckyLefty on January 15, 2006, 07:43:55 AM
I agree with everything another lefty has said!

I have a very strong side roll(about 60 degrees axis rotation).

This drilling ALMOSt always seems to get too deep on most conditions for me and then break very angularly to the hole leaving me a TON of ringing 7s.

Now as one realizes the lane surface on many lanes is much slicker on the left than on the right....I'm not talking about oil....I'm talking about the actual friction of the lane at the 40 foot mark and in that area.  Much less on the left much more on the right!

In addition my observation(I have an outstanding bowling friend) that can use this drilling nearly EVERYWHERE...even on US open type conditions.  He has a side roll of about 30 degrees.

I talk about thsi drilling and people's release in the reference section that I think I had in creating on this site a long time ago.  Under Storm Track he has conveniently continued to repost it for everyone's use!

At my slick synthetic house with always a little carrydown in the proper break area...stacked seems to be the answer for the lefty!  Not just me...but all lefties!

Serious Kick outs like at most other houses in America for lefties are NOT the answer as there is very little midlane oil!  (16 foot short run on top of 12 hours of bowling 40 foot scrapple).  Kick outs encourage midlane.  Unless it is a Brunswick ball of course!

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