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TotallyBowling

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Layout Question
« on: June 02, 2011, 02:15:58 AM »
Hi, I wondered if someone would be able to help me.
 
I have tried a few balls and layouts, and have found that the layout that seems to work best for me is  having the pin above and to the right of the ring finger (I am right handed) with the CG in a straight line below it.
 
My ball driller has suggested that I try putting this layout on all of my new equipment, and allow the surface and coverstock of the balls to create the difference of reaction.
 
I have tried to do some research on this, and it seems that Walter Ray does something similar. I have a couple of symmetricals, but most of my equipment is assymmetrical, so my question is would this be something that would help me? 
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Re: Layout Question
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2011, 04:59:13 AM »
Everyone may have a different opinion on this, but I know my driller said the same thing just last week and I'm getting ready to take him up on it. My game is very different than yours (I'm a lefty and only use symmetrical equipment), but conceptually it makes good sense to me. I can also tell you that about 10 years ago I used nothing but the same drilling that seemed to work for me. Now, after a LOT of time and effort trying different layouts I can honestly sit back and say I don't think it was worth it, at least not for me. Minor changes, sure, but not nearly as impactful as going to a reliable layout on a different platform.


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Re: Layout Question
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2011, 06:57:14 AM »
Look at it this way...many of the pros arsenals are simple. They use one maybe two layouts and utilize the design of the balls to be the difference, either cover, core or combo.

If you start trying to choose a layout, as well as a ball choice you bring to many variables into the equation. If you lay out a ball with a 'new' layout, how do you truly know what the ball does or can do?

Surface is the largest component to ball reaction or motion. Make it simple.


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Re: Layout Question
« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2011, 09:22:09 AM »
I agree here.  Most of my equipment is the pin around 5 inches from PAP, pin up, and then vary slightly the distance I kick the cg/mb out.  If I want more roll on the backend, I use a duller surface and maybe kick the cg/mb out further and use a small weight hole to give more midlane.  If I want more flip on the back, I keep the cg/mb more in line with the pin (stacked or close to it) and use a shinier finish



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Re: Layout Question
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2011, 01:42:43 PM »
I have tried a lot of different layouts over the years and found a solid 3-5 that I use consistently. Two are pin ups with different MB positions the other three are pin downs. It makes it easier to know your equipment and adjust as needed when bowling. Most of my pin to pap distances are 4" to 5 3/4".

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Re: Layout Question
« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2011, 01:11:03 AM »
"My ball driller has suggested that I try putting this layout on all of my new equipment, and allow the surface and coverstock of the balls to create the difference of reaction."

 

Yes this is a great way to set up some equipment especially ones that cover a few different coverstock types and ranges in equipment from say an entry level, mid level and high performance ball. You will see that each ball gives you the same kind of motion on the lane, the difference being when the ball reads the lane and starts to react. Makes it easier to change bowling balls and never miss a beat and fill like your guessing on what the ball will do.


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Re: Layout Question
« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2011, 01:59:26 AM »
Agree on this - unless you want a specific ball reaction or a special purpose ball (for which you'd probably also chose a specific ball as a basis), sticking to your favorite/proven layout is a good choice. It is comforting to the kind that you know that this "works" for you, and you get to know differences between the single balls in your arsenal. I case of doubt, surface adjustments can help "separating" balls from each other, so that they complement each other on the line on various oil lengths and volumes.

 

Personally, my favorite layout is also 4.5-5" from PAP, CG/MB stacked, and the pin placed above the fingers. I have used this on a lot of balls and would always be a fall-back option, unless I have a very detailed plan concerning a new ball's utility and reaction shape.


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