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lane1lover

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please suggest the ball for reverse block lane
« on: April 18, 2004, 06:56:30 AM »
in the situation of slippery back end, extreme on 6-7 board after 45 feet, light oil head, evaporate dry board from 20-30 feet, old wood lane.
what kind of ball should I use ? I think a sanded solid reactive with pin in and pin under ring is more apporiate, I try my pin over ring is too hard to control of wash-out, 5 board break in 45 feet, it wash out, 7 borad break it high hit, 6 board it leave 4 or weak 10 (pin deck is dirty too). I have try to lay the ball down from 11, 15, 20, and the result is almost the same, just like I cannot apply more than 15 rotation axis on this kind of lane, it is real situation and I think most of the hook ball player want to know how to combat this kind of lane. welcome for any suggestion and brain storming idea.

 

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Re: please suggest the ball for reverse block lane
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2004, 02:54:54 AM »
I have also successed with a 1" pin solid wow and pin/cg stacked under ring finger, with 1 to 2 arrow with end over end around 5 degree axis rotation, the ball start at around 40 feet but the roll can keep rolling to pocket because of carrydown, I am just wonder the shot is not look pretty because my style is tweener and usually play with 4 - 5 arrow, just not happy to play small arc ball ! what is your feeling, chitown ?

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Re: please suggest the ball for reverse block lane
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2004, 03:32:20 AM »
When I have encountered a "reverse block" where the heads and inside (between 10-10) are basically fried, and there is oil outside 10, I have had great "luck" with the following:

Storm Flame Reactive (orange) (pancake weightblock - 1" pin stacked under ring)
Depending on how badly the inside is "toast" decides how deep I get, careful not to push out into the actual heavy oil.
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Re: please suggest the ball for reverse block lane
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2004, 01:28:02 AM »
I don't want to set the pin to 3 3/8 for the spot backend, the think I am now trying is cutting the aggressive of the ball flare and also all the axis with my 1" pin solid wow which stacked under my ring finger with modorate revs, I think all bowler cannot assume to get high score from this kind of lane, but a high court/spare situation. think about mika.

thanks for your advised chitown !

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Re: please suggest the ball for reverse block lane
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2004, 03:13:35 AM »
thank you again chitown for your kindly reply, I have another old track contender which is drill with 5 X 5, I will try it. thank you for you to sharing your positive mind of bowling, I agree that I need to success on every lane condition to be a good bowler, that's why I ask comment for this kind of condition. thank you very much !

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Re: please suggest the ball for reverse block lane
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2004, 08:23:00 AM »
lane1lover,

You're looking for a universal solution and there isn't one.
If there's an out of bonds that forces you to play inside, you need a ball that will a small hook at th ebackend and still allow you to skid it enough on the "dry" inside and to hook just inside the OOB. The best way I have found is to find a break-point 2-3 boards inside of OOB in order to give myself some margin of error. I know I'm not going to hit it exactly every time.

The ball needs to have the right surface  and a small backend hook (usually, but not always, this implies a shortish pin-CG distance, pin placed somewhere above the ring finger area and CG kicked back towards the PAP) and the right surface depends on the amount of dry in the middle and how you deliver the ball (ball speed, axis tilt, rotation angle, etc).

Personally I've found very mild solids, such as the AMF Scamp, Storm Bolt Pro, Columbia Beast, and playing inside the 4th arrow to give me the most margin for error, and still be able to carry.
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