Author Topic: 45 degree = 3-3/8" . . . BALANCE HOLES? (Read 5464 times)

DukeHarding · « **on:** February 18, 2005, 06:51:53 AM »

The way I understand balance holes:

The further the balance hole is placed from the PAP up to 3-3/8", the stronger the ball reaction will be. This adds additional leverage to make the ball hook as it goes down the lane. In ALL cases, the a balance hole will make the ball roll earlier. Where you decide to place the balance hole helps fine-tune the ball reaction.

OK.

How is the 45 degrees measured? From what point on the ball? Off of the PAP?
I have a hard time understanding these things, being a visual artist.

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stanski · « **Reply #16 on:** February 20, 2005, 12:55:51 AM »

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Arrgh! it must be 1981 ....

charlest,

I quit bowling in 1981. Started again 1990.

So was 1981, the start of it all?

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In case you aren't being sarcastic, Charlest was being sarcastic by commenting on t-god's ages old theories on static weights that he still holds, as usual. T-god expresses his static theories sometimes here (look around), which are excerpted from pre-resin, pre-urethane era ball drilling.
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Doc Hollywood · « **Reply #17 on:** February 20, 2005, 07:53:44 AM »

I will have to say that T-god's statement is still correct by todays standard. If you drill a weight hole 3 3/8 past your PAP in a straight line you will still effectively be taking out bottom weight and side weight.

That is unless you have a PAP measurement of less than 3 3/8.

Drilling out the bottom weight creating more top weight will cause the ball to lope because of imbalance, therefore the ball will not rev as quickly which means it can't reach the PSA as quickly therefore the ball does essentially go longer before making it's move. Decreasing the side weight makes the ball flair slower less imbalance. If you go to negative side it actually works against the properties of the weight block.

Weight holes nowadays have less influence on the strong assymetrical cores but hey still have influence.

I have experiemented with all kinds of weightholes drilling shallow, deep, pitched, small, wide, stepped and just about any place you can imagine. Plugged and redrilled weightholes to see how reaction changes.

Opposite PAP holes are cool, Everyone goes what is that hole for? Is that legal? Great way to screw with some folks.
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stanski · « **Reply #18 on:** February 20, 2005, 03:35:18 PM »

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I will have to say that T-god's statement is still correct by todays standard. If you drill a weight hole 3 3/8 past your PAP in a straight line you will still effectively be taking out bottom weight and side weight.

That is unless you have a PAP measurement of less than 3 3/8.

Drilling out the bottom weight creating more top weight will cause the ball to lope because of imbalance, therefore the ball will not rev as quickly which means it can't reach the PSA as quickly therefore the ball does essentially go longer before making it's move. Decreasing the side weight makes the ball flair slower less imbalance. If you go to negative side it actually works against the properties of the weight block.

Weight holes nowadays have less influence on the strong assymetrical cores but hey still have influence.

I have experiemented with all kinds of weightholes drilling shallow, deep, pitched, small, wide, stepped and just about any place you can imagine. Plugged and redrilled weightholes to see how reaction changes.

Opposite PAP holes are cool, Everyone goes what is that hole for? Is that legal? Great way to screw with some folks.
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Sure weight holes still have effect, but from what I've learned from others/ what mo pinel advocates is that it is not due to the effect of static weights, but changing core dynamics.
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Doc Hollywood · « **Reply #19 on:** February 20, 2005, 05:33:21 PM »

Stanski - All else being equal whenever you drill out part of the core you are changing some imbalance thus changing core dynamics. However it is still possible to take out side weight without actually removing core material. Thus only changing static weight and not core dynamics.

I have to agree that core dynamics play a major part of the equation but unless you change a drill pattern and effect the core position the balls reaction will not change much unless drilling deep into the core.

Another argument can made for where the removal of mass in a weight block is removed. But that is a whole new topic and not the actual point of this thread.
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