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Title: Mass bias strong position
Post by: REVOLUTIONS PS on January 20, 2004, 12:47:06 AM
Has anyone else noticed that their 'strong' position for mass bias plaecement is under the thumb?

Thanks for any input.
Title: Re: Mass bias strong position
Post by: channel surfer on January 20, 2004, 04:35:54 PM
Didnt know that, but it DOES make sense.
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Title: Re: Mass bias strong position
Post by: charlest on January 20, 2004, 09:26:21 PM
quote:
The strong position will vary from bowler to bowler in appearance.  The strong position for the mass bias is halfway between the bowlers track and the vertical axis line.  So depending on that PAP, the "look" of where the MB is will be different from person to person.
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Title: Re: Mass bias strong position
Post by: khamûl on January 21, 2004, 12:56:40 AM
quote:
   quote:The strong position will vary from bowler to bowler in appearance. The strong position for the mass bias is halfway between the bowlers track and the vertical axis line. So depending on that PAP, the "look" of where the MB is will be different from person to person.
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Now, will anyone believe you?


not that it matters any.  as long as you choose a higher initial top weight ball, the reaction will always be "strong".

*runs and hides in the corner*
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Title: Re: Mass bias strong position
Post by: Jeffrevs on January 21, 2004, 07:12:19 AM
soup, funny.....but that's not really true........
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Title: Re: Mass bias strong position
Post by: charlest on January 21, 2004, 07:29:12 AM
quote:

not that it matters any.  as long as you choose a higher initial top weight ball, the reaction will always be "strong".

*runs and hides in the corner*
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Edited on 1/21/2004 8:26 AM
Title: Re: Mass bias strong position
Post by: livespive on January 21, 2004, 12:38:00 PM
Brian's back, school's in session

I always knew that under the thumb and anything right (rh)
was strong, but I didn't really know there was a definate way to
find it.
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Title: Re: Mass bias strong position
Post by: Next Level PS on January 21, 2004, 01:44:49 PM
My PAP is 4" over and 1/8 up my stong position is under the Thumb. food for thought.
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Title: Re: Mass bias strong position
Post by: charlest on January 21, 2004, 02:57:54 PM
quote:
My PAP is 4" over and 1/8 up my stong position is under the Thumb. food for thought.
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"Fodder for the mudder?"
"Pablum for the masses?"

You, Lonce, 4" over. Nah, you don't spin the ball THAT much!!
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Title: Re: Mass bias strong position
Post by: Next Level PS on January 21, 2004, 03:13:20 PM
having a PAP of 4" does not mean the you spin the ball. it, just me that you have early turn tendicies. I kind of turn it with my thumb more than my fingers if that makes sense. I still have a large track circumference and diameter


quote:
quote:
My PAP is 4" over and 1/8 up my stong position is under the Thumb. food for thought.
--------------------
also know as VortexII


"Fodder for the mudder?"
"Pablum for the masses?"

You, Lonce, 4" over. Nah, you don't spin the ball THAT much!!
--------------------
"Just because you can do something does not mean you should do it."

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www.bowlritelanes.com
www.nextlevelproshop.com

also know as VortexII
Title: Re: Mass bias strong position
Post by: REVOLUTIONS PS on January 23, 2004, 10:39:28 AM
The information I have is that you are use the first track flare ring as a reference.  You place the mb half way between that and the vertical axis line.  I posted this after realizing that I had drilled a ball for myself (Shock Trauma) with the mb half way between the grip line and the val.  I remember drilling the ball quickly and made the mistake of placing the mb there instead of in the strong position, where I intended it to be.  I really don't think it made a difference, the ball is just as strong and angular at the break point as my other stuff with the mb under the thumb.
Title: Re: Mass bias strong position
Post by: REVOLUTIONS PS on January 23, 2004, 10:40:09 AM
I just admitted that I made a mistake!!!  I thought ball drillers never did that!lol