Author Topic: MB in track VS MB on VAL (Read 2991 times)

Juggernaut · « **on:** March 16, 2011, 04:02:25 AM »

I've read all the articles on "Dual Angle" drillings, "degree system" drillings, and all the like. What I am looking for is really very basic and simple.

If you have 2 balls with a 4in pin-to-pap distance, and the pin was in exactly the same spot in relation to the grip on both of them, what reaction difference would you see between the two?

From what I've figured, the MB in the track would give you a milder, "arcish" reaction. Mo says that a MB on the VAL creates forward roll.

What reaction difference exists in the "real" world? Anybody know?

Edited by Juggernaut on 3/16/2011 at 12:22 PM

Stan · « **Reply #1 on:** March 16, 2011, 12:05:04 PM »

Are you talking about pin or MB ?

Xcessive_Evil · « **Reply #2 on:** March 16, 2011, 12:13:52 PM »

Stan wrote on 3/16/2011 12:05 PM:
Are you talking about pin or MB ?

This.

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Juggernaut · « **Reply #3 on:** March 16, 2011, 12:21:30 PM »

Talking about MB. I'll go correct the typo.

Thanks.

Xcessive_Evil · « **Reply #4 on:** March 16, 2011, 12:45:55 PM »

Juggernaut wrote on 3/16/2011 12:21 PM:
Talking about MB. I'll go correct the typo.

Thanks.

In short, the further the MB is from PAP, the longer the first phase is (skid, read drilling angle). Pin distance from PAP dictates how soon/late the transition occurs, and pin angle to VAL(or pin buffer) dictates how slow/fast the ball responds to friction.

I stone 8s and 9s like its cool...

Edited by Xcessive_Evil on 3/16/2011 at 12:49 PM

Juggernaut · « **Reply #5 on:** March 16, 2011, 01:15:22 PM »

Thanks for replying, but I'm still having a problem understanding. I guess a better way to state the question would be this:

What would be the actual performance difference between two identical balls with the same pin to pap distance, with the first one having a large drilling angle (135 degrees), and the second having a small drilling angle (20 degrees)?

Xcessive_Evil wrote on 3/16/2011 12:45 PM:

Juggernaut wrote on 3/16/2011 12:21 PM:

Talking about MB. I'll go correct the typo.

Thanks.

In short, the further the MB is from PAP, the longer the first phase is (skid, read drilling angle). Pin distance from PAP dictates how soon/late the transition occurs, and pin angle to VAL(or pin buffer) dictates how slow/fast the ball responds to friction.

I stone 8s and 9s like its cool...

Edited by Xcessive_Evil on 3/16/2011 at 12:49 PM

Xcessive_Evil · « **Reply #6 on:** March 16, 2011, 01:57:47 PM »

The ball with the 20* angle will not skid(1st phase) nearly as long as the ball with the 135* drilling angle. The ball with the 20* angle would be more suitable for heavier oil conditions.

Juggernaut wrote on 3/16/2011 1:15 PM:

Thanks for replying, but I'm still having a problem understanding. I guess a better way to state the question would be this:

What would be the actual performance difference between two identical balls with the same pin to pap distance, with the first one having a large drilling angle (135 degrees), and the second having a small drilling angle (20 degrees)?

Xcessive_Evil wrote on 3/16/2011 12:45 PM:

Juggernaut wrote on 3/16/2011 12:21 PM:

Talking about MB. I'll go correct the typo.

Thanks.

In short, the further the MB is from PAP, the longer the first phase is (skid, read drilling angle). Pin distance from PAP dictates how soon/late the transition occurs, and pin angle to VAL(or pin buffer) dictates how slow/fast the ball responds to friction.

I stone 8s and 9s like its cool...

Edited by Xcessive_Evil on 3/16/2011 at 12:49 PM

I stone 8s and 9s like its cool...

Juggernaut · « **Reply #7 on:** March 17, 2011, 02:27:32 PM »

Thanks Excessive, that's the explanation my simple mind was needing.

Author Topic: MB in track VS MB on VAL (Read 2991 times)

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