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Rileybowler

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Measuring for Span
« on: August 03, 2016, 08:53:30 PM »
I have been looking at videos on u tube as well as USBC Bowling academy on measuring for span and it is not the way I was measured for my span. They say to make a mark halfway between the first and second knuckle and this is where they measure from instead of the first knuckle. I am not a driller or pro shop guy but wanted to know is this the new way to measure now? Any input would be appreciated
Carl
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Re: Measuring for Span
« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2016, 02:27:50 AM »
Basically halfway between the first and second knuckle will be where the gripping edge of the hole or insert will be on a finger tip drilled ball. Measuring the span in this manner is not new.
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Re: Measuring for Span
« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2016, 08:28:32 AM »
If you insert your thumb all the way into the thumb hole and the first crease is on the edge of the finger hole, it's too long.

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Re: Measuring for Span
« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2016, 10:35:17 AM »
I guess all my stuff is wrong because it was measured from the first knuckle, I appreciate the replies so quickly.
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Re: Measuring for Span
« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2016, 11:58:26 AM »
Just by eyeing it I would say that it is off by at least a half inch, would just moving the thumb hole that amount remedy the problem?
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Re: Measuring for Span
« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2016, 12:01:48 PM »
You could do that, since your pitches will likely need to be changed. If you're that long, you more than likely have excessive reverse pitch in the thumb.

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Re: Measuring for Span
« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2016, 03:57:10 PM »
Also, the trend over the last 20 years has been to more relaxed grips.  Most of us today use what would have been called a semi fingertip I'm the 60's

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Re: Measuring for Span
« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2016, 02:03:17 PM »
Is the semi-finger tip (relaxed) a factor in enabling these younger bowlers to create the rev rate that they do? Or is it simply easier on their hand after years of bowling?

Back in my formulative days of bowling, I was taught it was an option once full finger tip became too tiring or painful, and for others (though not many) simply a grip of choice.
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Re: Measuring for Span
« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2016, 09:50:17 AM »
Finger tip grips first came in to vogue after world war 2.  There wasn't any scientific support for the trend, rather through trial and error bowlers discovered they could create more effective roll on the new lacquer surfaces that were much slicker when oiled than the shellac surfaces they replaced.  Very long spans promoted staying behind the ball and getting it into a tight roll as opposed to the looping spinners and full rollers than predominated on the shellac, but were less effective on lacquer. 

I think the power game that developed in the 80's did usher in a trend to shorter spans that were more compatible with the cup wristed releases that evolved at that time. 

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Re: Measuring for Span
« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2016, 11:54:28 AM »
Avabob summed up the history of the fingertip grip , as well as the effect of going to a shorter span nicely. In the 1980's, the "power release" was indeed much easier to do with a cupped wrist , kept firm at release, coupled with a shorter span. Mark Roth perhaps exemplified this release the best. He accomplished this while still maintaining
square shoulders throughout his approach as well. Today's power release is altogether a different animal. it's one that is accomplished by completely UNCUPPING the wrist (collapsing the wrist) backwards at release. It is also best accomplished by incorporating
an open shoulder on the next-to-the-last step as well as utilizing MUCH more lateral
spine tilt than the power release of the 80's. In fact, such extreme lateral tilt in the 80's
(by the power players of that era) would have resulted in a ball released with way too
much axis tilt since in those days, power came from the FINGERTIPS and not the
result of the fingers rolling up and over the circumference of the ball, as is the case with the collapsed wrist you see so much of with today's power players.

I still have a few students who utilize the 80's style power release. Many of them
get into trouble trying to incorporate the lateral spine tilts used by today's wrist collapsers.