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Doug Sterner

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OIl Layout for cranker
« on: January 18, 2006, 02:31:52 PM »
OK guys I am at wits end here. I have a bowler with above average speed and above average revs. He wants a ball for oil.

I have drilled him a pin under ring, cg out Full Throttle and that wasn't enough.

Then drilled him a Total Shock & Awe max hook on Mo's sheet and that's not enough.

I need some help here. It seems that hem loves every ball he gets for about 3-4 weeks and then suddenly it's "dead" as he puts it.

Suggestions for a ball and layout? He has loads of talent but refuses to move and adjust. Just wants a ball that turns harder and hooks more when he can't get to the pocket.

Help?
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Re: OIl Layout for cranker
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2006, 10:42:28 PM »
what's his profile?
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Re: OIl Layout for cranker
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2006, 12:23:58 AM »
If he has above avg. speed and revs I find it strange that he can't get the ball too hook.  Is it because the lanes are that heavy or am I missing something here?
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Re: OIl Layout for cranker
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2006, 12:26:37 AM »
This is a tough question to answer because there not enough info about the guy and the conditions.  

Tracks GP2 is great for heavy oil and is also a great ball for crankers.  If he can't hook that ball in oil then he doesn't have many revs or way too much speed for his revs.
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Re: OIl Layout for cranker
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2006, 02:44:11 AM »
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Re: OIl Layout for cranker
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2006, 04:52:33 AM »
If the Total Shock and Awe isn't enough, then he needs to learn how to bowl, that thing hooks early.

The only thing I can suggest is a Tsunami and hear me out, the ball probably isn't encountering oil if the TS&A isn't moving, it is probably burning out. If this guy gets a ton of hand in the ball and wants something that will hook, this ball will snap a ton.

If it doesn't work, the Tsunami still is enough money to make it worth the headache on your part Doug.
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Re: OIl Layout for cranker
« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2006, 05:38:38 AM »
the balls he has might be to much. If his rev rate is super high with medium balls speed. he may need something like a Storm Super Sport solid with a stronger drilling or take the TSA and give it a super symetric layout.
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Re: OIl Layout for cranker
« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2006, 06:43:04 AM »
FWIW I'm inclined to agree with CoachJim and NextLevel: have you watched him bowl in league? Does he really know what he's doing? (You haven't indicated that.)

If he's bowling 3-4 time per week on TRUE heavy oil, all oil balls do absorb oil and lose reaction at different rates; he could be on REALLY heavy oil and they could be just sucking up the oil, if he doesn't wipe them down every shot and clean them after each session. But that seems unlikely, but not impossible, in just 3-4 weeks.

Have you examined these balls that no longer work? are they polished by oil? Have you tried to extract the oil by some method: rejuvenator, hot water, Hook Again, CPR?
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Re: OIl Layout for cranker
« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2006, 10:38:56 AM »
I have faith that Doug knows what he's doing.  I'd put him in a Super Carbide Bomb with a 4 x 4 layout, if it won't hook in oil nothing will.  But if he tries to use it in anything less than a flood, it's probably going to burn out.  --  JohnP
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Re: OIl Layout for cranker
« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2006, 10:30:32 PM »
Well guys he is a quality bowler but he does suffer from "modern bowling-itis"...also known as "I want to see the ball hook a tonnis"

In his words he's sick of "getting beat by equipment." Wants a ball to play his A game in the soup. I know it is unrealistic to throw 15 to 5 on heavy oil but I am hoping to locate somehting that will work better than what he has,...
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Re: OIl Layout for cranker
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2006, 10:44:58 PM »
quote:
Wants a ball to play his A game in the soup. I know it is unrealistic to throw 15 to 5 on heavy oil but I am hoping to locate somehting that will work better than what he has,...
 


Doug, I thought that is what the SCB was for????????

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Re: OIl Layout for cranker
« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2006, 12:47:12 AM »
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Wants a ball to play his A game in the soup. I know it is unrealistic to throw 15 to 5 on heavy oil but I am hoping to locate somehting that will work better than what he has,...
 


Doug, I thought that is what the SCB was for????????

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You thought wrong my friend, there is not a ball on the market that will let someone play a breakpoint of 5 on soup and carry with any sort of efficiency. You just cannot play a line with a breakpoint that far out and expect to have a whole lot of success (if it is true soup) unless it is really their day. Somehow, you've gotta convince this guy to move in and tighten up.
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Re: OIl Layout for cranker
« Reply #12 on: January 20, 2006, 01:26:56 AM »
As far as just trying to solve his problem with a ball, he might want to check out a Dyno-Thane Centrifugal Mass... nice strong heavy oil ball + Soaker coverstocks don't die like most other equipment.
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Re: OIl Layout for cranker
« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2006, 03:08:01 AM »
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In his words he's sick of "getting beat by equipment." Wants a ball to play his A game in the soup. I know it is unrealistic to throw 15 to 5 on heavy oil but I am hoping to locate somehting that will work better than what he has,...


He isn't getting beat by equipment if hes trying to play 15 to 5 on the soup.

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Re: OIl Layout for cranker
« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2006, 04:48:34 AM »
How are other bowlers balls reacting wheres he bowling ?
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