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UpTheLeftGutta

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A "reversed drill"
« on: February 20, 2007, 02:29:50 AM »
Back when the Zone Classic was actually new, I was watching a reputable bowler with one that had the typical Zone linear pin/cg/bias lineup.

He had the mass bias almost into the bridge, I can remember if the pin was drilled out by the thumb/under thumb or if it was placed a touch outside.

I didnt notice any odd ball reaction out of it.

Any thoughts or ideas?

 

Deathclutch

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Re: A "reversed drill"
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2007, 10:30:47 AM »
Sounds like a full roller drilling to me.
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Re: A "reversed drill"
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2007, 10:35:38 AM »
I forgot to mention, he wasn't a full roller. Had some decent tilt on the ball too.

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Re: A "reversed drill"
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2007, 10:37:16 AM »
Unless he had a reason for having a really exotic drill, I agree with tbb.  Sounds like the normal full-roller drill for asymmetrics.  Pin left of thumb around 7:30, CG towards grip center, usually puts the MB around 1:30.

Could the the "Patrick Girard" layout but unless he specifically asked for it, I doubt his driller just chose that for him.

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Re: A "reversed drill"
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2007, 10:45:58 AM »
I once had a Nitro R2 w/ the pin about an inch to the right (away from track) of the thumb, CG above (3" pin).  Rolled like it was negative weighted.  I used it mostly when I needed to play deeper, but I could also play the ditch with it on the right  conditions (Silver lanes in Spokane, if anyone remembers).  Didn't over react, hit hard.
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Re: A "reversed drill"
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2007, 10:47:54 AM »
Could have been the Patrick Girard Reverse Flare drilling used on Tour last season.
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Re: A "reversed drill"
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2007, 10:54:57 AM »
I just experimented on a Whirlwind (based on a more knowledgable person than I) by placing a 4" pin under my thumb and CG in the center of my grip. The ball is fantastic, it goes long and smooth, and has a nice arc into the pocket. It's the most consistent move I've seen from a ball compared to other tame drillings in lightbulbs I've had. Although I was extremely worried, it doesn't clip the thumb at all (nor does the person who showed me this drilling clip his).

I should one other driller/bowler how it reacted, and he promptly drilled a 2" pin version in a Uranium HRG for himself. It does clip the thumb very late on the lane, but I think we can easily counteract that with a well place balance hole -- of course this is beyond my abilities at the moment.

We are all your basic semirollers, myself being inverted.

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Re: A "reversed drill"
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2007, 08:16:32 AM »
Several years ago I drilled a Visionary Pink Warlock with something similar to this.  I am right handed and it was laid out with a left handed full roller layout with the pin at 4:30 and the mb in the bowtie of the track.  This ball was a masterpiece.  It had a very rolly arching reaction and unbelievable carry.  The first night out with it I shot 849 in our scratch league, and put up several other honor scores with it over the years.