I once had a Nitro R2 w/ the pin about an inch to the right (away from track) of the thumb, CG above (3" pin). Rolled like it was negative weighted. I used it mostly when I needed to play deeper, but I could also play the ditch with it on the right conditions (Silver lanes in Spokane, if anyone remembers). Didn't over react, hit hard.
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