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Slopsurprise

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On a strong MB ball, what makes a bigger difference in reaction, pin or MB
« on: February 25, 2007, 10:56:20 PM »
There is a layout I really like but, I want more length and pop at the backend. I am wondering which I should move or what should I do? The layout is pin 4 1/2 from PAP, 3.5 above midline, and the MB 3.5 from pap. Should I move the MB or pin further away from PAP or the pin higher? I like the midlane this layout give me but, I would like to drill another of the same ball to cover more of the boards on the backend.
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Re: On a strong MB ball, what makes a bigger difference in reaction, pin or MB
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2007, 07:08:12 AM »
In general, as far as I have learned, moving the MB changes the shape of the breakpoint. On a strong mass bias/PSA ball, an MB only 3.5" from PAP will provide more of a hook and set reaction. To make the backend sharper, place the MB around 4.5" - 5" from the PAP.

If you like the midlane read, then I wouldn't change the pin or the surface.

The sharper backend should also give you slightly more backend. Whether it's enough to satisfy you is unknown.
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Re: On a strong MB ball, what makes a bigger difference in reaction, pin or MB
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2007, 07:16:05 AM »
Now, just by moving the MB, will it still have the same flare potential???
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charlest

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Re: On a strong MB ball, what makes a bigger difference in reaction, pin or MB
« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2007, 12:16:38 PM »
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Now, just by moving the MB, will it still have the same flare potential???


I have never heard, seen or read anything that implied moving the MB changes the flare or the RG of a drilled ball. The pin position, and surface change the flare; pin position changes the RG..

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Re: On a strong MB ball, what makes a bigger difference in reaction, pin or MB
« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2007, 12:53:24 PM »
How does the surface change the rg or flare of the ball?
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charlest

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Re: On a strong MB ball, what makes a bigger difference in reaction, pin or MB
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2007, 03:28:33 PM »
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How does the surface change the rg or flare of the ball?


Sorry; re-edited it. Surface doesn't change RG; does change the flare characteristics. Matte/rougher surfaces flare earlier and more than polished/smoother ones.
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Re: On a strong MB ball, what makes a bigger difference in reaction, pin or MB
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2007, 03:29:04 PM »
A duller surface will make the ball lose energy sooner, so that means the flares will separate quicker. Thats is how you get rollout, by overflaring. If you have a smoother polish surface the ball retains energy longer, so the flare rings stay tighter in the front part of the lane. Make sense?
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Re: On a strong MB ball, what makes a bigger difference in reaction, pin or MB
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2007, 05:11:50 PM »
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A duller surface will make the ball lose energy sooner, so that means the flares will separate quicker. Thats is how you get rollout, by overflaring. If you have a smoother polish surface the ball retains energy longer, so the flare rings stay tighter in the front part of the lane. Make sense?
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Yup. It all depends on how much oil you have, how grippy the cover is, your ball speed and axis tilt and rotation ....
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Re: On a strong MB ball, what makes a bigger difference in reaction, pin or MB
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2007, 05:28:12 PM »
4.5 x 4.75" will give you slightly more length with a sharper break point. This MB placement will give you limited continuation.
I would lean more toward 4.5 X 5.5 this will have a bit more length than the 4.75mb and still be pretty angular but with more continuation.
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