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chitown

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overreacting back ends?
« on: April 12, 2007, 01:26:16 AM »
What's your favorite type of ball and layout for really, really dry overreacting back ends?  Plenty of oil on the lanes but the back ends are really jumpy.
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Re: overreacting back ends?
« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2007, 09:31:47 AM »
Solid particle or a solid resin with a lower RG, drilled with a short pin to PAP, or even a true pin axis drilling.  Does the trick for me every time.
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Re: overreacting back ends?
« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2007, 09:32:01 AM »
Something pearl particle. A strong ball drilled weak with a bit of surface, to make it so it does not read the back ends as much. Pin axis if it gets really bad.
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Re: overreacting back ends?
« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2007, 09:36:16 AM »
Well, if the lane is clean I really like to play this with polished pearls like my Sahara or Trauma. Lots of ball movement, and as long as the back end is consistently clean it is also a great show

When the oil is (too) long, though, say 40'+, I'd rather use a light load particle ball like my trusty Eliminator or XXcel. For me and my lower speed, it is a head oil question - as long as there is enough oil the particles will float down and smooth out the back end reaction, but there is the danger of burnout once the heads fall apart and I cannot move my line (generally deeper).

An in-between option for me is my old polished Eraser Particle Pearl which has very good length and also a smooth breakpoint - but I do not have it in my bag too often anymore. But for a player with more speed than me, this could be a ticket to control the flying back end.
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Re: overreacting back ends?
« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2007, 09:37:18 AM »
1) Urethane
2) Anything rolly with some surface to use some energy before it hits the dirt.
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Re: overreacting back ends?
« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2007, 10:51:41 AM »
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Re: overreacting back ends?
« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2007, 11:54:38 AM »
For me it depends on how long the oil pattern is.

Our house went knocked back on their length / buff a while back and I found that I had a great look with my old Pure Energy (high flaring dull particle solid).  One short patterns I like weak balls like a Hot Rod Hybrid with a more agressive drilling and some surface.  

Either way surface is your friend to control the down lane reaction.
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Re: overreacting back ends?
« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2007, 12:03:08 PM »
Anything solid with some surface.
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Re: overreacting back ends?
« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2007, 12:20:18 PM »
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Solid particle or a solid resin with a lower RG, drilled with a short pin to PAP, or even a true pin axis drilling.  Does the trick for me every time.


Yep.
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Re: overreacting back ends?
« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2007, 12:29:05 PM »
Leong Hall drilling??

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Re: overreacting back ends?
« Reply #10 on: April 12, 2007, 02:03:50 PM »
I like a ball with a 4 inch pin.....

pin on VAL 2 inches above PAP CG towards center of the palm.

SMOOTH...but head oil is needed!
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Re: overreacting back ends?
« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2007, 02:03:51 PM »
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Huzah!  I will say whenever the backends are flying I just move left with that ball and get it out there.
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Re: overreacting back ends?
« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2007, 02:12:45 PM »
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I like a ball with a 4 inch pin.....

pin on VAL 2 inches above PAP CG towards center of the palm.

SMOOTH...but head oil is needed!


I have an old Revolution Vengeance with the pin on the VAL 1.5" above the PAP, cg swung back toward the grip center, and a big x-hole just below the PAP, cover dulled to about 600 grit.  Awesome on flying backends.  It just arcs to the pocket when it finds friction and hits great.  Caution: must have head oil.
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Re: overreacting back ends?
« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2007, 04:40:33 PM »
since this is a drilling and layout forum i'm going to avoid the surface preparations and different equipment choices others have mentioned. your best bet on a drilling pattern for this type of condition is placing the pin near your axis or near your ball track.
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