Author Topic: Drilling a Cherry Vibe (Read 1735 times)

basha6 · « **on:** February 28, 2008, 07:29:39 PM »

Just bought a new Hammer Cherry Vibe. 14lb / Top Weight 2.5 oz. / box also says 2"-3" which I'm not sure what that means. I'm wondering about drilling patterns.

Lanes I use are pretty decent. I asked what the oil pattern was and I was told it is oiled short. 35'. Another guy said they are medium oil.

I am a fairly novice bowler. Just bowled my first 200 (203) using a 14 lb house ball. Usually bowl around 140-150. Right now I'm a pretty straight on bowler. I have no hook or break at the end so usually trying to get it to hit just right/or left on #1. I wouldn't mind having a little more back end action on the ball but at this point in my "career" not sure I can handle an aggressive hooking ball without it ending up in either gutter.

I had read some reviews where some bowlers said use "standard" pattern and others said standard was still a little too aggressive and should go for "length" pattern. Just wondering if anyone has much experience with either layout.

Sorry to be such a noob and I appreciate you taking the time to help a noob bowler be better.

If need any other info let me know. johnnyfoto@hotmail.com

Thanks,

John
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bowlingnut2008 · « **Reply #1 on:** February 29, 2008, 11:57:58 AM »

I have a Cherry Vibe. I throw it 17-18 mph with 300 rpms. Drilled with the pin up/right of ring with the MB in my palm. Love the reaction. Lots backend!
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KDawg77 · « **Reply #2 on:** February 29, 2008, 12:08:16 PM »

Mine's similar to bowlingnut's. It's a high pin over ring finger probably 5 1/2" to PAP with a 5" CG to PAP. It's not quite stacked. I love the consistent hard arcing backend and length. A great piece.
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Juggernaut · « **Reply #3 on:** February 29, 2008, 09:37:18 PM »

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Just bought a new Hammer Cherry Vibe. 14lb / Top Weight 2.5 oz. / box also says 2"-3" which I'm not sure what that means. I'm wondering about drilling patterns.

Lanes I use are pretty decent. I asked what the oil pattern was and I was told it is oiled short. 35'. Another guy said they are medium oil.

I am a fairly novice bowler. Just bowled my first 200 (203) using a 14 lb house ball. Usually bowl around 140-150. Right now I'm a pretty straight on bowler. I have no hook or break at the end so usually trying to get it to hit just right/or left on #1. I wouldn't mind having a little more back end action on the ball but at this point in my "career" not sure I can handle an aggressive hooking ball without it ending up in either gutter.

I had read some reviews where some bowlers said use "standard" pattern and others said standard was still a little too aggressive and should go for "length" pattern. Just wondering if anyone has much experience with either layout.

Sorry to be such a noob and I appreciate you taking the time to help a noob bowler be better.

If need any other info let me know. johnnyfoto@hotmail.com

Thanks,

John
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American Bowler in Qatar.

John,

I am going to simplify a little more what is being talked about. With you being a "noob", it is understandable that you are not familiar with some of the terms of balls or drillings.

First of all, the 2-3 on the box refers to the distance that the marker pin is in inches from the center of gravity, also known as the C.G.. Usually a ball with a pin to cg distance of 2-3 inches is a great spec and preffered by many.

The cherry vibe, while not at the TOP of the performance list, is still a very good ball, and well capable of generating quite a bit of hook under the right conditions. If the center there truly has a 35 foot medium oil shot, the cherry vibe is an excellent choice.

As for the drilling. The "standard" pattern you refer to, I am assuming they are talking about the flare safe "label leverage" drilling. This is a safe drilling to use when you do not know the bowlers pap ( positive axis point ) coordinates. It puts the pin in a position that allows the core strength to be utilized while not making the ball any more "skittish" than it has to be. Not the best or the worst of drillings, but a drilling that usually allows for the ball to reach a lot of its potential.

A "length" drilling is going to allow the ball to skid a little farther before it transitions ( changes from slide to roll ), but can also cause the ball to have a much sharper, more pronounced hooking action that can make it a bit "finicky" at times. The main difference between the two drillings is the placement of the marker pin. That marker pin denotes the top of the weightblock inside the ball and helps the driller orient the core to reach its full potential, or some portion thereof, depending on how strong the bowler wants the ball to be.

Seriously, with you being a "noob" and all, I would tend to try to lead you away from anything considered "exotic", and just stay with a basic label drilling. This is a drilling where the cg ( center of gravity ) is placed under the palm ( in the gripping area ) and the pin is put in a position to give you either an earlier, smoother reaction, or a longer, sharper breakpoint.

The basic label leverage drilling usually ends up with the pin on the positive side of the ring finger and the cg in the palm. This is considered by many to be a good, "all around" drilling. Once you bowl a while and feel ready to make the next step, then you might look at something a little more specific.

Good luck with the new ball and have fun. That is, after all, what it is all about, right?
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Edited on 2/29/2008 10:39 PM

JohnP · « **Reply #4 on:** March 01, 2008, 09:53:52 AM »

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Right now I'm a pretty straight on bowler. I have no hook or break at the end so usually trying to get it to hit just right/or left on #1. I wouldn't mind having a little more back end action on the ball but at this point in my "career" not sure I can handle an aggressive hooking ball without it ending up in either gutter.

You need to go to the best pro shop in your area and ask them to work with you. I'm sure the house ball you used is a conventional grip, and probably doesn't fit very well. If you intend to continue with the game and improve, you will want a fingertip grip, if not on this ball on the next one. The release is what makes the ball hook. Without the correct release, no ball is going to hook very much. A little coaching at this point can make a vast improvement in your game. -- JohnP

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