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General Category => Drilling & Layouts => Topic started by: chitown on September 14, 2005, 05:07:22 PM
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what kind of reaction can one exspect with a pin in ball? Is there a big difference compared to pin out?
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I was just curious. My friend on my team just bought a super carbide bomb and it's a pin in. I will see how it reacts soon
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Pin-ins offer a smoother, less skid/snap reaction. They are best suited for arcing drillings with an early breakpoint, because the ball will not break as hard as a pin-out because the mass bias of the core is weaker (yes, even symmetric cores have an MB, even though the effect is not as exploitable as in a asymmetric core with a PSA). Heavy oil balls are well suited for pin-in configurations, withn a drilling of the pin below the fingers.
Personally I can tell that having a pin-in or pin-out makes a big difference in ball reaction. Me and a friend both have Traumas, mine is a pin-in with the pin at 4:00 from ring finger, my friend has a 3 1/2" pin out with the pin at about 2:00 of his ring finger. Both balls could not be different. My friend's Trauma is a jerky beast with a wickedly flipping backend, mine is a great control ball with a steady, arcing move. Both cover the same amount of boards, but they break MUCH differently.
Therefore I'd suggest cheking pin-to-CG distance before you buy a ball, because it will basically determine how the ball will react and which kind of drilling can be applied.
Also, take a look at Brunswick's drilling sheets and the drilling patterns: they all show suggested pin distances for the different drillings, and I can just say that it is something to mind if you want a proper ball reaction. You will not get a pin-in to become a long-going flip monster.
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Yes, the drilling will determine the reaction. But the core setup will pre-determine for which kind of reaction and drilling the ball will best suited for. You can drill a pin-in for lentgh and skid/snap, sure, but I do not consider this to be an effient exploitation of the ball potential at hand?
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Edited on 9/15/2005 5:38 AM
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So would a high track player be able to use pin balls?
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Pin in balls can be used for most pin to PAP distances, but will require very large balance holes in some cases. Some layouts are physically impossible - a 5 X 3, for example cannot be achieved with a 1" pin in ball. But if you subscribe to the "cg doesn't matter" philosophy, you can set the pin to PAP at 5" and let the cg fall where it may, then use a balance hole (and/or extra deep gripping holes) to make the static weights legal. -- JohnP
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Pin in balls are best drilled to go long and snap, with lot's of finger and side weight.
If you try to drill them to roll early, they will probably roll out and/or clip a finger hole, unless you're bowling on a flood. Pin in balls are usually better for heavier oil conditions.
When you drill a pin out ball to go long and snap, they can/will become uncrollable. Using a pin in ball, gives you the control needed for go long and snap drillings, having now the best of both worlds. =:^D
Edited on 9/16/2005 8:01 AM
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stevie, if you like that ball so much, why wouldn't you drill up another one like it..? I know I would. =:^D
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I just cannot believe what I've read in this thread ....
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I just cannot believe what I've read in this thread ....
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Bowling: Just like hand grenades and horse shoes, you only have to get close.
Life: Deal with what is.
I agree.
Anybody ever remember the Pin Safe area to keep the bowtie up and track off the fingers? Anybody know how to drill a hole to effect track flare?
WOW
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