Alright, I already did this, and couldn't figure it out for myself, so I'm just looking for someone to give me 1 or 2 layout suggestions so I can try this drill.

Exactly how do you lay out a ball when drilling the pin on track? Do you set it up with a degree drilling? Or drill it based on your PAP?

Just give it to me straight guys, I can take it

Nobody around here bowls on conditions that warrent a pin on track, so all the ball drillers are kind of unclear what to do. I don't trust myself to guess what to do, and I know we got some very smart and qualified users on here...

T-God, charlest, etc help a poor youth bowler out?

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I'm neither good, nor consistent, which is why I bowl.

This will wind up being very much a 10:30 drilling and will or can raise your track; so, you have to be careful exactly where you put the pin. Most often, one does not really put the pin exactly in/on the track, but you can, of course.

If you have a high track, definitely put the pin above the middle finger; it may still clip the holes. If you don't have a high track, you can put the pin next to the middle finger.

CG placement:
It winds up being a 10:30 type of drilling (for a righthander) because most people will keep the CG near the grip center. (So, this drilling will look a lot like a lefty's 10:30, the equivalent of a righty's 1:30 drilling.) Of course, you do not have to do this; you can move the CG into the negative side. If you do, you have to make sure the side (and other) weights are legal; so, you may need to put a weight hole on the Negative axis point. Since most balls drilled this way will not flare much, you don't have a lot of worries about the ball flaring over this hole. (This is looking a lot like a lefty's stacked leverage drilling.)

I tried this with a Visionary Green Gargoyle; I put the pin outside the middle finger and left the CG in grip center. It was an extremely limited use ball and did soften the backend, while slightly reducing length. I believe the reduced length was due to the 10:30 type drilling, which, when the CG is closer to the PAP than the pin, is an early revving modification of the pin.

I'd suggest this drilling with balls intended for dry lanes, like the GG, Scout, Tornado, Barrage, Sonic and the like.

 

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"Just because you can do something does not mean you should do it."

I know its not a pin on track drilling , But did you guy's get a chance to see the drilling on MIKA'S Stinger when he won the tournament before the TOC.
His Pin was under the middle finger, and CG was under the ring finger.Looked like a 11:00 drilling for a lefty. .
If you seen him that day you would have seen a great display of bowling.
He didn't have the big flippie reaction on the back just a good strong arc.
I think the next thing i drill may have that drill on it.i have thrown a Columbia Piranah with the pin in and under the middle finger. It rolled real long and good arc to the pocket. But if you had any oil the ball would just skate down the lane.

If you want to really know how the ball would react find a Lefty at your house
with a label drill , that fits you hand good enough to throw it. And go for it

If you drill over the CG, Isn't it a Label drill Or Label Shift ? If you drill the ball CG in palm and PIN in Palm. What difference does that make in relation to your PAP?
Shoud be very little if any. Since both are insie the grip.