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General Category => Drilling & Layouts => Topic started by: BKloss on August 10, 2009, 03:23:07 AM

Title: Pin to Val distance
Post by: BKloss on August 10, 2009, 03:23:07 AM
What correlation does the distance from the Pin to Val have?

Example 4" pin to PAP 1" from val
vs
4" pin to PAP 3" from val

What difference in reaction would you expect to see?
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Title: Re: Pin to Val distance
Post by: Juggernaut on August 10, 2009, 11:37:43 AM
http://www.stormbowling.com/drill-specs/psa_drill-right-reading.pdf

  That link has some info. Storm refers to the VAL as the PAL and gives a little info about what the pin buffer does.
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Title: Re: Pin to Val distance
Post by: bluerrpilot on August 10, 2009, 03:09:05 PM
In combination with surface prep it affects the way the ball responds to friction. Example #1 would be very angular compared to example #2 that would be smoother or slower.

Using a dual angle layout, the second angle is similar to the pin buffer. Smaller angle = shorter distance = quicker response. Larger angle = longer distance = smoother or slower response.


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Edited on 8/10/2009 3:12 PM
Title: Re: Pin to Val distance
Post by: JohnP on August 10, 2009, 04:41:00 PM
Also called pin buffer.  Try link below.  --  JohnP

http://www.ballreviews.com/Forum/Replies.asp?TopicID=241476&ForumID=18&CategoryID=5
Title: Re: Pin to Val distance
Post by: Warmon on August 10, 2009, 06:01:59 PM
quote:
What correlation does the distance from the Pin to Val have?


The inverse of Pin to ML. It's the same thing described a different way. The dual angle method is also the same thing described a different way. In the years past many standard layouts used pin buffer to ML to describe various reactions. The pin buffer layout is easy to do, easy to understand and easy to visualize. I think it's the best / easiest method to layout a ball.
Title: Re: Pin to Val distance
Post by: Xcessive_Evil on August 10, 2009, 09:09:41 PM
quote:
In combination with surface prep it affects the way the ball responds to friction. Example #1 would be very angular compared to example #2 that would be smoother or slower.

Using a dual angle layout, the second angle is similar to the pin buffer. Smaller angle = shorter distance = quicker response. Larger angle = longer distance = smoother or slower response.


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"USBC is concerned that technology has overtaken player skill in determining success in the sport of bowling"

Edited on 8/10/2009 3:12 PM


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Title: Re: Pin to Val distance
Post by: Jay on August 14, 2009, 04:50:18 AM
I was wondering something about this distance.  Could it be said that smaller pin buffers make the ball lose energy quicker once it starts to read the lane?
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