Author Topic: Dropped ring finger (Read 12025 times)

notsohotshot · « **on:** October 20, 2009, 02:16:52 PM »

Can any of you drillers tell me the advantages of the dropped ring ringer drilling? I know I use to use that set up but don't remember why.

BrunsMike · « **Reply #1 on:** October 20, 2009, 10:40:48 PM »

You're talking about the Sarge Easter grip. This is mainly used for the bowler who is experiencing pain in his ring finger. I heard it can also be used to help weaken your rev rate for a given oil pattern or house. Outside of that that's all I really know about it.
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DanH78 · « **Reply #2 on:** October 20, 2009, 10:49:25 PM »

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You're talking about the Sarge Easter grip. This is mainly used for the bowler who is experiencing pain in his ring finger. I heard it can also be used to help weaken your rev rate for a given oil pattern or house. Outside of that that's all I really know about it.

Dropped ring and sarge easter are two different things. With a dropped ring finger, the span on the ring finger is slightly shorter than what it would be traditionally, but it's still a fingertip.

Sarge Easter has the ring finger drilled conventional.

I believe the main purpose of drilling a dropped ring finger, other than comfort/need, is to help you come around the ball.

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dougb · « **Reply #3 on:** October 20, 2009, 11:03:26 PM »

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You're talking about the Sarge Easter grip. This is mainly used for the bowler who is experiencing pain in his ring finger. I heard it can also be used to help weaken your rev rate for a given oil pattern or house. Outside of that that's all I really know about it.

Dropped ring and sarge easter are two different things. With a dropped ring finger, the span on the ring finger is slightly shorter than what it would be traditionally, but it's still a fingertip.

Sarge Easter has the ring finger drilled conventional.

I believe the main purpose of drilling a dropped ring finger, other than comfort/need, is to help you come around the ball.

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Can you explain what coming around the ball means?

DanH78 · « **Reply #4 on:** October 20, 2009, 11:21:18 PM »

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Can you explain what coming around the ball means?

Side roll. AKA Axis Rotation

Two extremes. While both player can do either (and all points in between), PDW is a prime example of high degree of axis rotation and WRW is a prime example of a low degree.
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notsohotshot · « **Reply #5 on:** October 21, 2009, 12:00:33 AM »

Actually when I measure my span the ring fingure is 1/8" longer than the mf as far as span goes but you see lots of people that drop yhe ring finger about 1/8" shorter than the mf making it 1/4" shorter than what is measured. If its to come around the ball I don't need any help doing that,I need help learning to not do it. One of my biggest problems is being able to throw a down and in shot that will not go on the wrong side or hit the 4,7 going away. I drill most of my stuff pin up high and between fingers or above rf and nothing drastic as far as static wts. I don't think I hit up on the ball too much,although I do have a little wrist snap and am double jointed in the fingers. I have started drilling my finger 1/4 reverse to help from hitting up so much. HELP!!!

Artimust · « **Reply #6 on:** October 21, 2009, 02:46:37 AM »

Just chiming in. I had my ring fingers dropped about 1/8"-1/4"(I can't remember exactly how much), but I did this because I broke my finger between the tip and the first joint. I could not make my finger completely straight, and it was very painful. I was actually bowling with my finger in an aluminum splint, and my ring finger out of the ball. The cool thing about it was that I was bowling pretty good like that! When the pain subsided enough where I could put my finger in the hole, it was still difficult to get it in comfortably because I lost some flexability in the joint. I had the hole plugged an dropped and it work great! Kept it like that until the finger healed and most of the pain disappeared, then had the balls plugged and redrilled.

SKC · « **Reply #7 on:** October 21, 2009, 03:22:32 AM »

I use a Sarge Easter grip.. And in my opinion the biggest benefit of this grip is that i don't go too much around the ball.. I can better roll the ball..

It didn't significantly change my rev rate.. It went down at first, but only because i had to get used to the grip at first.. After a week or so, 2-3 hour practice sessions a day, i was basically back to my normal revrate of about 350-400 rpms..
I can still, if i want to, get close to 500 rpms as i did in my younger years..

The reason for me trying this grip, was that i was experiencing pain in my ringfinger from a very stretched span..

Shortened my total grip by about 3/8"..

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Baliktad · « **Reply #8 on:** October 21, 2009, 03:51:18 AM »

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I believe the main purpose of drilling a dropped ring finger, other than comfort/need, is to help you come around the ball.

Sorry Dan but an dropped ring finger was used on the PBA in the 80's and the purpose was to keep the players more up the back of the ball not around it. The ring finger also had more forward to put more pressure on that finger.

charlest · « **Reply #9 on:** October 21, 2009, 06:02:45 AM »

FWIW I dropped the span on my ring finger several years back because of tendonitis in the 2nd joint of my ring finger. My spans for both fingers are now identical. This reduction has helped reduce the tendonitis to a large degree. It also caused most of my lift to now come from the middle finger.

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strikeking · « **Reply #10 on:** October 23, 2009, 01:40:10 PM »

I started drilling the "dropped" ring finger years ago when I decided to actually measure the bowlers hand instead of making the ring finger longer because that's the way a "conventional" grip is drilled. I was often criticized for drilling a left handed grip until the Pros started using this lay-out. It does relieve pressure on the hand and wrist because the ball actually fits the hand. I would suggest that IF you can get a hold of Bob Stricklands book about grip lay-out, read it!
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Slick300 · « **Reply #11 on:** October 24, 2009, 07:27:06 PM »

Get yor hand on Bill Taylors fitting and drilling a bowling ball he explains it the best and he was doing it in the fifties. For him it was based on the length of the ring finger in relation to the middle finger by measuring the distance from the ring finger crease to the mf crease at the finger tips. He then had a chart that would tell you if the ring finger span would be shorter or longer than the mf. Taylor`s theories are what everyone is returning so that the ball holds onto the bowler and not the bowler holding onto the ball. I have been using a drop ring since the mid eighties after I read his book. For anyone that wants to understand fitting this book is a must, it is a little pricey and I think it is available through Bowling This Month.
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