I hate to side-rail this thread but now that Bob Hanson has mentioned it, the oft-cursed Collier grip almost seems, from an intuitive standpoint, to be more applicable to or for a conventional grip than to a finger-tip grip. I am not sure why it seems that way to me ...
Now back to our regularly scheduled debate. Sorry, Rags.
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