What conditions do you typically do this for? What reactions are you typically looking for? What layouts and equipment do you like? Any input you can give today or early tomorrow would be great. I have two stronger balls, Gravity and Attitude shift, that I was thinking of doing this with. Possibly a 6x5 (or 4) an inch or so above the fingers on the Attitude, and a 5" pin-pap (2" val buffer)with the MB above the thumb or maybe in the track. I leave for Nats on Wednesday night so we are drilling these today or tomorrow. Thanks in advance.