Author Topic: USBC Layouts (Read 2843 times)

Hoselrockets · « **on:** March 03, 2012, 11:07:21 PM »

Ok with the first stream video of this years USBC what is everyone thinking at layouts to play the lanes this year? Would love to hear everyone's thoughts on what to bring with what drills and why. I thought I had an idea but starting to have second thoughts after watching the live stream.

THB

Edited by Hoselrockets on 3/3/2012 at 10:08 PM

Russell · « **Reply #1 on:** March 04, 2012, 12:08:21 AM »

I'm just going to say this and then get flamed....but from what I am reading this is the wrong place to ask this question. People are freaking out thinking that this pattern is about 14' buffed to 22'. I'm seeing people saying that low end balls are going to be the play like it's a PBA pattern from 1990.

It all depends on what you can do with the ball....if you know how to truly play straight (not looking 12 at the arrows flipping it out to 6 downlane), you can throw some solid symmetricals with surface. I think pin downs will be the play and surfaces that bleed energy off. Once you move in you will be able to switch to some shinier pieces and open the angles up.

I think there is a giant no man's land between 10 and 15 at the arrows. I think if anyone plays in there on the fresh they will pretty much have to throw it perfect to strike. The heavy handed players who can create lots of angle through the fronts will be able to play in early, but anyone who can't make the ball change direction well downlane will have fun shooting at 2/10 split variations until the lanes start to hook.

Little known fact: In Russian "Hope" and "Change" translate to "Tax" and "Spend"

Hoselrockets · « **Reply #2 on:** March 04, 2012, 08:02:35 AM »

First off 102 views and only 1 reply???

Secondly, Russell I'm not one to flame anyone for their thoughts and I appreciate you taking the time to put together a reply. I do have a couple questions. When you say solid symmetrical are you referring to a "stronger" ball or something mid-range? Also when you say "surface" how much are you thinking?

Some thoughts of mine are hook set type drills will a little surface (2000) and smooth type layouts are going to be safe.. I'm thinking tall 2" from VAL, 1" from axis and Rico type layouts. With the pattern being flat and 39' its important to stay right as possible. The key to any tournament is find a way to the pocket to leave stuff that is easier to convert.

Any other thoughts out here in BR land?

THB

getuaload · « **Reply #3 on:** March 04, 2012, 10:16:36 AM »

i just bowled the last few days, here is my view.

first off i started by watching the USBC opening weekend vid on youtube and paying attention to the lane mans comments and where to play as well as what equipment to use.

Total BS, team event i struggled bad.. i had the wrong equipment and was fighting the lanes trying to play the lanes wrong.

I did a lot of research before going back and found awesome info from Mo Pinel as well as others about the USBC 2012 lane conditions.

Mo suggested to use balls with more controlled back ends with a smooth / dull surface.. 4000 no polish.

I brought back some more equipment next day, weaker drilled & small flareing smoother reacting. Mo also said you need to play more direct & dont move around just step down with balls.

He was right, the best line was 10-7 at the arrows and 5-3 at the break point. i made money the 2nd day and lost money the first.

google Mo's interview and you will find loads of info or check out his site and forums he will give you the best info.

hope i helped, with out knowing your style, just bring some weaker stuff and if needed buy something weaker ,play straighter and dont jump around on the lanes moving deep will only work for w few frames and you will be moving again. straighter is greater on this shot..

it did remind me of the old school PBA patteren, it is shorter & less volume then in the past, the heads will go away quick causing the ball to burn up early and die on the back.

good luck, shot more then 180 per game you can win some bracket money..

TO BE THE MAN, YOU HAVE TO BEAT THE MAN

Russell · « **Reply #4 on:** March 04, 2012, 10:25:33 AM »

Let me clarify my "play like a PBA pattern from 1990 comment"....because I agree 100% with what is posted above. Around that time the patterns played a little bit flat and had tons of friction downlane. Guys with lots of angle through the fronts that could really make the balls change direction had lots of success. I think the pattern might be a little bit similar to that...BUT...equipment is a LOT different than in those days. The covers now bleed off energy much better than in those days, and will allow much straighter angles if you have the right core/cover combo.

If you can create angle through the fronts with some tilt, then you can play in and throw it to the right. I think most bowlers don't create enough tilt and axis rotation to play in on a pattern like this, and will struggle getting the ball to change direction once it gets to the spot.

I'm just giving this view from experience, I'm getting the pattern put in my lane machine and will be bowling on it in the next couple of weeks.

Little known fact: In Russian "Hope" and "Change" translate to "Tax" and "Spend"

luckyxxx · « **Reply #5 on:** March 10, 2012, 09:33:46 PM »

anybody have any new updates coming back from usbc's ? or practicing on the pattern?

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