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Next Level PS

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Gurus....How to increase a bowlers Track Diameter?
« on: November 05, 2007, 08:23:48 AM »
I have been bowling for sometime now and for a long time my pap has been around 2-3 inches over with around 20+ degrees of tilt but for the last 2 years the bowling surfaces are harder and oils have gotten slicker even with my higher rev rate or lower ball speed my ball does want to read the lane properly which effects my carry and overall hook.
I know I know i got a good rep for knowing the game but this one thing has hamper me for a long time.
know my Pap is 2 1/4 over
track diameter is 9 inches i want to aleast increase it to 11 inches.

thanks for all respones
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Re: Gurus....How to increase a bowlers Track Diameter?
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2007, 04:30:38 PM »
This isn't an answer, but are you sure your PAP is really 2 1/4 over?  

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Re: Gurus....How to increase a bowlers Track Diameter?
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2007, 04:37:31 PM »
You're going to need to stay behind the ball longer.  You can alter your drilling spec's to the following to help:

Add 1/16 to middle finger span
Subtract 1/16 from ring finger span
3/8 away on middle finger pitch
3/8 positive on ring finger pitch

This is assuming that you're right handed.

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Re: Gurus....How to increase a bowlers Track Diameter?
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2007, 04:57:40 PM »
You just need to stay behind the ball. If it were me, I would spend some practice time just rolling the ball (without twisting it up). Once you can get the end over end roll, then you can add alittle bit of side rotation.
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Re: Gurus....How to increase a bowlers Track Diameter?
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2007, 05:06:04 PM »
Patty Costello had me actually break my wrist back and "spank" up on the ball. Making sure of a nice easy swing. Fingers all to the ceiling. We did this with a one-step drill and also a three step. Another drill to do at home was to pick up a pail by the handle when it was in front of you. Picture pail in front of the foul line lined up with your throwing shoulder. We also did a drill on the lanes where you were on one knee (at the foul line) and pushed the ball out on the lane. This would help stay behind the ball and promote good leverage position or the ball would kind of go every where. I believe this was to promote muscle memory more than anything. (aka: Human Medicis) Just my $.02

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Re: Gurus....How to increase a bowlers Track Diameter?
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2007, 05:15:05 PM »
thanks guys i taking notes....please keep it comin.
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Re: Gurus....How to increase a bowlers Track Diameter?
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2007, 05:16:05 PM »
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This isn't an answer, but are you sure your PAP is really 2 1/4 over?  

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Re: Gurus....How to increase a bowlers Track Diameter?
« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2007, 05:24:15 PM »
Lonce,

According to Mo's mysterious chart,
https://www.buddiesproshop.com/36/Asymetrical_Layout_Guide.htm
a 9" diameter track = 30 degrees of tilt.

You know I've seen you throw, and it just doesn't look like that much and that short a PAP.

FYI I hope you're not taking Mo's word for your PAP measurement. He did mine once and screwed it up royally: he measured 2 3/4" over and 3/4" up. Mine is 5" over for years; varies to 4 1/2 x 3/4" down. Not an ego thing as I could care less. If I were you, I'd have someone else measure it, throwing a sanded plastic ball down the middle.
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Re: Gurus....How to increase a bowlers Track Diameter?
« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2007, 06:01:18 PM »
I think one of the well respect shops in NJ getting PAP is pretty easy I can even tell how the ball will migrate with some different cores designs. I measure the diameters first then get the pap with the Armidillo.


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Re: Gurus....How to increase a bowlers Track Diameter?
« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2007, 11:59:46 PM »
Was using that grip for about 2 years...its that bad  ready to just stick to the press thing and put down the balls for awhile can't play on the plastic the paper ok but not the plastic plus wanna use the normal man layouts.
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Re: Gurus....How to increase a bowlers Track Diameter?
« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2007, 03:40:02 AM »
quote:
I think one of the well respect shops in NJ getting PAP is pretty easy I can even tell how the ball will migrate with some different cores designs. I measure the diameters first then get the pap with the Armidillo.


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Alright then. Just trying to be encouraging. If anyone can help via remote control (long distance words only), kotm can.
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