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leftyinsnellville

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Black Widow Venom X-Out
« on: November 23, 2008, 07:13:48 AM »
I picked one up cheap but am a little perplexed by how to lay out what I got.  Here's a rudimentary depiction of what I've got to work with:

o = pin
x = cg
m = mass bias

---------o

-----------------x
 
             



-------m


I thought that I'd just ignore the cg since all the debate about "cgnomaddah" indicates that it won't make a difference.  Thought I'd lay it out like this.

--------------o
-----------O-O
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-----------m
------------O

Any opinions?
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Edited on 11/23/2008 4:19 PM
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Spider Ball Bowler

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Re: Black Widow Venom X-Out
« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2008, 03:40:00 PM »
The only reaction I have liked out of a ball lined up like yours is stacking the pin and cg and leaving the mb on the negative side of the thumb.

I have that drilling on my Black Widow Solid and it is super smooth unless I'm on old wood with shorter oil.

I know there is the big debate of the CG No matter, but any ball I have drilled with the cg swung to the right, has been a huge DUD.

I am a lefty as well.
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APheLion

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Re: Black Widow Venom X-Out
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2008, 09:17:21 PM »
uhmm, wait, the vemon has a mb or the heart?
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los2003

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Re: Black Widow Venom X-Out
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2008, 09:20:54 PM »
it has a mb
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nd300

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Re: Black Widow Venom X-Out
« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2008, 09:27:07 PM »
Two thoughts..............
1.Have your driller actually check to make sure the Cg marking is an accurate placement.
2.I'd respectfully suggest placing the Cg marking on your PAP so that the Mb is on the right side of your thumb and somwhere in the positive thumb quadrant.
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Re: Black Widow Venom X-Out
« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2008, 10:44:40 PM »
Since you're a lefty, that would seem to be an "alright" cg placement. As you could use more aggressive pin/mb placements without needing a weight hole, or as big of one (as the cg would likely end up near grip center).

I'm a right-hander and have never drilled a ball with the cg kicked over so far from the pin/mb line, so take my advice for what you will.
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APheLion

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Re: Black Widow Venom X-Out
« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2008, 10:46:59 PM »
we are forgetting something, what is the reaction u expect from this ball? what u want to use it on? then we can work something out.
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When a house bowler misses the mark, misses the break point and strike, for many ppl its called a wallshot. When a pro does that its call adjustment

When a house bowler gets his finger stuck in the ball and fall on the lanes, for many ppl its called lame bowler. When a pro does that its called the Machuga flop! ha i like this one.
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J_w73

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Re: Black Widow Venom X-Out
« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2008, 09:38:27 AM »
What is your PAP? and rev rate..


Edited on 11/24/2008 10:39 AM
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Re: Black Widow Venom X-Out
« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2008, 09:44:24 AM »
you can drill it leverage wt without a hole the guys on tour use those I have a couple and they roll great
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tjj300

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Re: Black Widow Venom X-Out
« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2008, 05:53:37 PM »
Sure you can.  You throw the ball a couple of times without a weighthole, then mark and drill the weighthole between the flair rings. Go small and deep.



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