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Title: Question re: assymetrical Mass Bias placement
Post by: yeehayashi on November 10, 2009, 02:10:56 AM
In an assymetrical ball, does the mass bias marker usually determine if a ball is set up for left-handed vs. right-handed players?  Reason I ask is that I have a Cell Pearl which has the MB marker offset to the left of the pin & cg.  This ball just doesn't seem to make the aggressive skid-flip move I've seen others get with this ball & what I was looking for with this ball.  I'm a righty with medium ball speed and revs.
Title: Re: Question re: assymetrical Mass Bias placement
Post by: kmanestor22 on November 10, 2009, 10:53:05 AM
Needs more info....PAP to pin, MB placement, weight hole placement if any....
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Title: Re: Question re: assymetrical Mass Bias placement
Post by: dizzyfugu on November 11, 2009, 12:52:12 AM
If the MB is in your track area, the ball's reaction becomes mellow. More mid lane read, less back end. In the worst case, with a high track, it can even flare backwards with a totally screwed reaction. But there are a lot of other opotential factors - a PAP of yours and maybe a picture of the drilled ball would help a lot with diagnosis.
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Title: Re: Question re: assymetrical Mass Bias placement
Post by: the pooh on November 11, 2009, 07:44:57 AM
CG to the left is better for most layouts for a right handed bowler. It allows you to swing the mb down and not need a weight hole. CG to the right is better for a left hander. Either alignment does not perform differently, just makes it easier for the driller to layout the ball. If your ball is not performing as you think it should,it is probably the wrong layout for you,where you bowl. Or,it could be as simple as aa surface adjustment. Surface accounts for about 70% of a ball's reaction.
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Title: Re: Question re: assymetrical Mass Bias placement
Post by: yeehayashi on November 11, 2009, 01:22:30 PM
Thanks for the feedback folks.  The pin placement is centered above the fingers and located 5+ inches from my PAP.  I get good length, but the ball just seems a little lazy on the backend and doesn't give me the skid-flip finish I expected.
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Spence Hayashi
Title: Re: Question re: assymetrical Mass Bias placement
Post by: DanH78 on November 11, 2009, 01:41:24 PM
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Thanks for the feedback folks.  The pin placement is centered above the fingers and located 5+ inches from my PAP.  I get good length, but the ball just seems a little lazy on the backend and doesn't give me the skid-flip finish I expected.
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Spence Hayashi


And where is the MB?  If the MB is to the track side of the thumb, then you are getting the reaction that should be expected.  If that's how it is currently drilled, plug it, keep the pin above the fingers, but move the MB to the other side of the thumb hole, that will give you a stronger backend reaction.  Just know that due to the CG being offset, you'll probably need a decent sized weight hole to get the statics legal.
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Title: Re: Question re: assymetrical Mass Bias placement
Post by: T-GOD on November 12, 2009, 09:03:49 PM
Personally, I like the CG to the right of the mb and pin. This tpye of ball is stronger in the midlane and better on an oilier condition. Is the mb to the left of your thumb..? This could be why the ball is lazy.

Also, check your statics, as they could add a little kick if used correctly. Meaning bottom weight, thumb weight and zero side weight will make the ball a bit more lazy. Adding more positive weights could help on drier conditions. =:^D =:^D