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lefty50

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Question on the effect of higher Rg
« on: August 29, 2009, 01:38:30 PM »
Which of the following is true, with all other factors being equal?

Higher Rg balls rev up farther down the lane, but still rev as much as a lower Rg ball.

Higher Rg balls need a stronger hand and/or are in general harder to rev.

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Re: Question on the effect of higher Rg
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2009, 10:05:53 PM »
They tend to stand up farther down lane and backend harder for me, legends so great products prefer long and strong for certain shots.

Do I need more hand never had to worry about that, there cover are strong and will get the job done on most patterns.

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Re: Question on the effect of higher Rg
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2009, 12:32:36 PM »
Let's say each type gets the same rotational force from a dead stop. I believe the low-rg ball will spin faster, dissipate energy faster and stop sooner. The high-rg ball would spin slower, dissipate energy slower and stop later. Each one would release the same amount of energy over time.

In terms of bowlers and real world applications, high-rg balls and are best suited for slower ball speeds, < 45 degrees of rotation, lower axis tilt, medium to drier lane conditions, higher revs or any other factor or combination of circumstances where the ball is subjected to more friction.

Unfortunately, most high-rg balls are targeted at entry level bowlers by having low differentials [very little hook potential], but there are exceptions. The Columbia Freeze Red/Blue for example has a rg of 2.62 and a differential of .047 - which should make for a very hard hitting ball that hooks pretty well in most medium dry to medium oily conditions. I would suggest Med-RG or Low-RG drillings work best for all except very high rev / slower speed.

In other high-rg balls such as the Roto Grip Pantet series, it's best to drill them with stronger layouts for most folks because of low differential numbers - otherwise you might end up with just a nice spare ball or one that you have take a lot of speed off it to make it move.
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Re: Question on the effect of higher Rg
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2009, 03:00:27 PM »
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Let's say each type gets the same rotational force from a dead stop. I believe the low-rg ball will spin faster, dissipate energy faster and stop sooner. The high-rg ball would spin slower, dissipate energy slower and stop later. Each one would release the same amount of energy over time.

In terms of bowlers and real world applications, high-rg balls and are best suited for slower ball speeds, < 45 degrees of rotation, lower axis tilt, medium to drier lane conditions, higher revs or any other factor or combination of circumstances where the ball is subjected to more friction.

Unfortunately, most high-rg balls are targeted at entry level bowlers by having low differentials [very little hook potential], but there are exceptions. The Columbia Freeze Red/Blue for example has a rg of 2.62 and a differential of .047 - which should make for a very hard hitting ball that hooks pretty well in most medium dry to medium oily conditions. I would suggest Med-RG or Low-RG drillings work best for all except very high rev / slower speed.

In other high-rg balls such as the Roto Grip Pantet series, it's best to drill them with stronger layouts for most folks because of low differential numbers - otherwise you might end up with just a nice spare ball or one that you have take a lot of speed off it to make it move.
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The new Lane #1 Gemstone also has a high RG and differential (for a 15 lb it's 2.653 and .043)

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Re: Question on the effect of higher Rg
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2009, 06:32:27 PM »
Thanks for the input, it helps. So therefore, if I can make a conclusion from the info... Say for example I was looking to try a Clutch. The fact that I'm speed dominant with > 45 degrees rotation and bowling on a wet pattern would indicate that the Clutch is a bad choice because it's better for slower speeds, < 45 degrres rotation, and needs friction...

True?
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Re: Question on the effect of higher Rg
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2009, 08:59:31 PM »
From what I can find, the Clutch has a RG Avg of 2.56 and differential of .044. I would call this more of a Med-RG ball - kinda in the same ballpark as the Brunswick Swarm, but less snappy and more hard arcing. High-rg balls are usually thought of as those RG Avg > than 2.6. This ball is a good candidate for a RICO drill with the right specs, but any forward roll Med-RG or Low-RG drilling that puts MB closer to PAP than Pin to PAP should work out fine. As a Med-RG ball, it is not a bad choice for a speed dominant, > 45 axis player, but you are right a high-rg ball would not be a good match.


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Re: Question on the effect of higher Rg
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2009, 09:42:44 PM »
The diff would be .o38  because the max is 2.650
and the min was 2.612

Edited on 8/30/2009 9:48 PM

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Re: Question on the effect of higher Rg
« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2009, 09:45:02 PM »
Many thanks for the input...
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Re: Question on the effect of higher Rg
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2009, 01:02:39 AM »
low Rg = faster

high Rg = a bit slow

thats how it is for me

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Re: Question on the effect of higher Rg
« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2009, 01:22:08 AM »
quote:
low Rg = faster

high Rg = a bit slow

thats how it is for me


Same here, but let's not forget that coefficient of friction has more effect than RG. Dull or particle will match up better with higher speeds or lower revs (assuming it isn't so dry that burn up is a problem). Shiny or pearl would work better with lower speed or lower revs (assuming you aren't on a flood)
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