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LuckyLefty

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Flip Richard...the sophisticated
« on: June 06, 2006, 06:18:05 PM »
Version of the Mo Pinel famous Flip D...

Mo coined this phrase before he knew of this website.

Actually in a reviewing a great set of symmetric and assymetric drillings by Mo he sent included in is a Symmetric version of Flip D(called high pin with balance hole in symmetric section) .... and an Assymetric drill called Assymetric Flip drilling.

All these big flip drillings put the pin up and the distance to the VAL about 1/3 of the pin to pap distance.

Ie a 4 inch pin to pap and a 1.3 inch pin to val!  Often these drills put the pin up about 4 inches above grip midline.  Often a pin lenght of 4 1/2 to 5 makes setting up this drill easy!

Flip Richard as I call it Mo now calls pin up-- no balance hole.  3 3/8 X 4 3/4 with pin up and close to VAL.  I laid this on an old beat up Hot Wire original...drilled 3 times now(or decored as I say!)

The condition which has killed me for 2 years is oily heads(16 feet)...Bone dry midlanes and then sloppy backs!  So I thought ok....length....flare on the back but MUST wait thru the midlane.  Voila...This old clunker ball which hits like a wet noodle has made the shot easy.

Plenty of easy length....no midlane(key) and then the ball covers lots of boards even on carrydown and can climb all the way back to the pocket.

Thanks MO....Flip Richard...OR pin up....no balance hole!!!

REgards,

Luckylefty
PS putting same drill in a couple of others.  Note the highest series I've ever seen in this house was performed with Flip Richard on a Sheer Havoc....848!
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spanky

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Re: Flip Richard...the sophisticated
« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2006, 04:44:58 AM »
Hey Lucky,
  Could you give us the ol' ascii layout visual, please!!

LuckyLefty

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Re: Flip Richard...the sophisticated
« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2006, 07:06:20 AM »
I find Flip D... or as he calls it pin high ...balance hole to be way too much...

Moves both in the backend AND midlane!!!!

This one WAITS in the midlane a lot!  Then it covers boards smoothly and hard.

Ascii...

I actually have drilling in powerpoint.

REgards,

Luckylefty
Let me try here.
|--P---
|------
|-------r m
|PA-----_
|----cg--gc
|--------
|--------T

Pin 3 3/8 from PAP
PIN 1 1/2 from VAL
CG 4 1/2 from PAP
PIN 4 inche ABove grip center line
Theoretical MB in thumb
Legend
P = pin
PA = PAP
cg = cg
gc = grip center
r = ring
m = middle


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Re: Flip Richard...the sophisticated
« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2006, 07:31:14 AM »
I was in the pro shop when he marked up a Mayhem with the "Flip D*ck" for Wiseman. Let's say that after two a few practices balls before the round of eight match play, Danny's looked at Mo like he was burning a hole through him. He was p*ssed. He went back to the Ravage which he eventually won with. It's probably not the best drilling on a strong cover.
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LuckyLefty

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Re: Flip Richard...the sophisticated
« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2006, 01:52:58 PM »
Please distinguish between Flip Richard(the sophisticated)(no balance hole).

And Flip D... which is high pin stacked with balance hole.

The Flip D has tons of midlane and flip!
The Flip Richard has little midlane and continues boards covered in a firm hard way in the back!

Have only put on a Hot Rod...am putting Flip Richard on a Deuce and a couple of others.

Note the highest set shot in our house in years was with a righty throwing Flip Richard on a Sheer Havoc.  Strong core...medium cover!

Flip.....Richard.

REgards,

Luckylefty
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LuckyLefty

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Re: Flip Richard...the sophisticated
« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2006, 11:23:16 AM »
Saw this  version of Flip D yesterday...


loved it!


Note interesting twist in this Flip D version...cg next to the ring finger!

Absolutely great looking movement on this shot!

REgards,

Luckylefty


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LuckyLefty

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Re: Flip Richard...the sophisticated
« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2006, 01:39:49 AM »
Oh...got thinking about the weighthole.  Almost sure that this guy is a spinner say 4 inch pap.

I believe weighthole is on a line from grip center thru the cg and on val...up high...like a little above pin and on val about 1.5 from pin!

Great roll!

REgards,

Luckylefty
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Re: Flip Richard...the sophisticated
« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2006, 11:33:29 AM »
Took and applied the pin up version of Flip D I referenced above but made it a flip richard.

4 inch pin to pap.  Pin near val and about 4 inches above grip midline.

Mass bias straight above thumb.  On an X factor Deuce.

Did just what I wanted it to do.  Waited waited waited and then created much less entry angle as I was able to play a shallower swing on this severe Wet dry or should I say bouncing bond dry midlanes with carrydown.

Lots of carry.  Also with my usual drillings (nearer stacked) I never get brooklyns as the ball is crossing too sharp.  Now on thsi shot I'm tetting brooklyns if I cross(not hard to do on thsi bounce!).

It almost looked like my axis rotation was dramatically reduced!  

Yeah!!!

REgards,

Luckylefty
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LuckyLefty

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Re: Flip Richard...the sophisticated
« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2006, 09:51:03 AM »
A little update to this post.

Dynothane has a wonderful drill sheet that explains this drill...

Thanks Dynothane Click on Critical Mass  Look at page 5 and 6!

They call it Direct Cap for the Flip Richard version(reduced entry angle) and Power Cap for the Flip D!

For both of these Flip drillings I have been putting pin stronger and closer to the VAL.  Pins like 4 1/4 on a strong cored ball or 3 3/8 on a weaker cored ball and Direct Cap for a Flip Richard..(Pin up and withing about 1 1/2 inches from the VAL.

I put this recently on a Storm Deuce (Flip Richard or Direct Cap) pin up so much the mass bias ABOVE the thumb) and this thing let's the lane supply the midlane and then covers boards in the back!

I couln't believe how much I liked my ball trajectory on this bone dry midlane shot!  Lofter paradise!

REgards,

Luckylefty
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Edited on 7/29/2006 10:31 AM
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LuckyLefty

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Re: Flip Richard...the sophisticated
« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2006, 10:37:52 AM »
OOOPs.  Fixed!  But couldn't copy drilling..

Click above and then click on critical mass drilling.

This way you get to review their great ball...the
Critical Mass!

REgards,

Luckylefty
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