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Sportskraz

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Replacing Grips
« on: May 13, 2008, 10:34:08 AM »
This may be a rather dumb question but is there any special tool need (or recommended) to remove old grips?  I have an ebonite tape removal tool that I was planning on using but i did not know if there was something else that should be used.
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Re: Replacing Grips
« Reply #16 on: May 15, 2008, 11:45:44 AM »
The grips I've reglued have been brought to me either completely unglued but in the hole or pulled loose on one side.  I haven't been told any "horror" stories of loose grips causing injury.  --  JohnP
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Re: Replacing Grips
« Reply #17 on: May 15, 2008, 11:55:50 AM »
I use one of the small knifes provided by Vise to "cut" around the outside of the grips.  Any remaining glued-in rubber from the grips in the finger holes, I lightly scrape out with a bevel knife.  I also used a drop in the front and one in the back.  I've never had a problem with grips coming out of the ball (that I know of anyways).  I have to agree.. I curse as swear at people who glue grips in 360 degs.  I think its WAY overkill and makes replacing grips significantly more work than it should be.  

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Re: Replacing Grips
« Reply #18 on: May 15, 2008, 12:17:10 PM »
I use the 3 drop method, one@ 10-2-6
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JessN16

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Re: Replacing Grips
« Reply #19 on: May 15, 2008, 02:23:36 PM »
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If the person glued the grip all around, then, 1, never go to him again, and, 2, it will take a long time to remove it with any tool and you'll have to throw it away, and you'll need a razor or other device to remove the clumps of grip material still stuck to the sides of the hole.


I glue them all the way around.  I'd hate to guess at how many people have brought balls in for me to reglue grips installed by my competitors using the "two drops" method.  When I glue them in, they stay in, and I think that's more important than ease of removal when they wear out.  I use a very thin layer of LockTite super glue applied with a brush, probably less total amount of glue than with the "two drops" method.  Using my removal tool, I can get a grip out in about 10 seconds.  If I had to use a screwdriver it might take a minute.  --  JohnP


John,

I'm right there with you. I glue pretty much all the way around. I've had inserts come out before and that'll only happen once before you start looking at other options.

Jess
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Re: Replacing Grips
« Reply #20 on: May 16, 2008, 11:34:30 AM »
If you have the proper tool, which any pro shop should have, grips glued all the way round are easy to remove.  If you're just doing it for your own balls, take your chances.  I hate it when a customer brings a ball back with a loose grip or slug/sleeve.  S2, don't you have a removal tool?  --  JohnP
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Re: Replacing Grips
« Reply #21 on: May 16, 2008, 12:06:55 PM »
I'm in the same boat with Charlest here. The 2 drop method has never failed me either.....and as a plus in doing it this way, a person doesn't need a $25 tool to remove the grips.
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JessN16

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Re: Replacing Grips
« Reply #22 on: May 16, 2008, 12:37:02 PM »
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I'm in the same boat with Charlest here. The 2 drop method has never failed me either.....and as a plus in doing it this way, a person doesn't need a $25 tool to remove the grips.
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Flat blade screwdriver plus a mallet will get any grip out that you need. Also, the two-drop method is no guaratee that you won't leave residue. The last grips I removed had originally been installed by my former driller using the two-drop method. I tried to be as careful and deliberate as I could taking the old inserts out but I still was left with two big chunks of yellow rubber in the middle finger hole when the insert more or less disintegrated upon removal. Took me five minutes with a rasp, bevel tool and finally a bevel sander before I could get all the crap out.

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Brickguy221

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Re: Replacing Grips
« Reply #23 on: May 16, 2008, 04:22:34 PM »
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Flat blade screwdriver plus a mallet will get any grip out that you need. Also, the two-drop method is no guaratee that you won't leave residue. The last grips I removed had originally been installed by my former driller using the two-drop method. I tried to be as careful and deliberate as I could taking the old inserts out but I still was left with two big chunks of yellow rubber in the middle finger hole when the insert more or less disintegrated upon removal.
 


If you needed a flat blade screwdriver and a mallet, then more than likely a whole tube of glue and not a 2 drop method must have been used.

 
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Took me five minutes with a rasp, bevel tool and finally a bevel sander before I could get all the crap out.
 


Using the 2 drop method, it takes me 5 seconds with a bevel knife to do this. Another plus of using the 2 drop method.
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JessN16

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Re: Replacing Grips
« Reply #24 on: May 16, 2008, 04:29:35 PM »
The mallet is just used for very, very light tapping to push the screwdriver between the insert and the finger hole. I don't wail on it. And usually, I don't have to use the mallet, anyway.

Also, notice that I was talking about having to use a rasp, bevel knife and bevel sander to remove residue left behind from an insert installed via the two-drop method. It was as if the super glue had broken down the structure of the insert and made it one with the ball.

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Re: Replacing Grips
« Reply #25 on: May 16, 2008, 06:48:21 PM »
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Also, notice that I was talking about having to use a rasp, bevel knife and bevel sander to remove residue left behind from an insert installed via the two-drop method.


What ever kind of glue that was, if it was that tough to remove it from 2 sides, be thankful it was the 2 drop method they used and that they didn't didn't use it to glue the insert all the way around, else you would still be working on that finger hole.
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Re: Replacing Grips
« Reply #26 on: May 16, 2008, 08:42:39 PM »
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Also, notice that I was talking about having to use a rasp, bevel knife and bevel sander to remove residue left behind from an insert installed via the two-drop method.


What ever kind of glue that was, if it was that tough to remove it from 2 sides, be thankful it was the 2 drop method they used and that they didn't didn't use it to glue the insert all the way around, else you would still be working on that finger hole.
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lol...no joke. I've never seen an insert do that before. I've taken out several that were glued all the way around and they weren't that difficult. These felt like someone JB-Welded them in place.

Jess
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Corey C

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Re: Replacing Grips
« Reply #27 on: May 28, 2008, 11:58:34 PM »
I use vacu's and the less glue the better. I use a small flat head screwdriver(like the ones that clip on to your pocket) and I filed the tip so it's sharp. It doubles as a tape removal. Instead of scraping up and down, I slip it behind the grip and scrape in a sideways motion around the hole so it doesn't leave much glue or grip behind. If a grip was glued 360 I'd pull out the Turbo knife and cut it out and then spend 20 mins cleaning out the chunks of grip and leftover glue! Not a good idea if i had to change one during a tourney.
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