quote: Why would anyone choose to call this a RICO layout? I can go to nearly any center in the U.S. that is 40 to 50 years old and pick about 30 old Brunswick balls off the rack with this layout. Does no one realize that this, at one time, was a standard layout for all balls? There are a crap load of them at our center, Black Beauties, the old black Ebonites, and all the other rubber stuff that was out back then have this standard layout. I don't know what any of you have in your neck of the woods but I can probably pick up at least 30 of them at any given moment. This is not a new layout by any stretch of the imagination.
quote:Why would anyone choose to call this a RICO layout? I can go to nearly any center in the U.S. that is 40 to 50 years old and pick about 30 old Brunswick balls off the rack with this layout. Does no one realize that this, at one time, was a standard layout for all balls? There are a crap load of them at our center, Black Beauties, the old black Ebonites, and all the other rubber stuff that was out back then have this standard layout. I don't know what any of you have in your neck of the woods but I can probably pick up at least 30 of them at any given moment. This is not a new layout by any stretch of the imagination.
quote:SO Greg you are telling me that 40 to 50 years ago drillers were using weight holes? As well as PLACING pins in the middle of the palms? REALLY? I call BULLS**T.Now, granted I have said numerous times, it is merely a tag for a popular layout and I did not invent it, as I am given credit for, but to make a blatantly ignorant statement as this, well is just that, IGNORANT.Seeing that I have been around for a few years and am somewhat of a historian, as well as DRILLED a few bowling balls in my time, I know that weight holes WERE NOT previlent until the mid to late 70's and if I remember CORRECTLY, PINS were not present until, oh EARLY 80's in Hammers or Angles? So how could you use a 'layout', that utilizes a PIN (which is a 2-piece core), CG and a WEIGHT HOLE at 6 3/4" 40 to 50 years AGO? Ya they knew a lot about asymmetry back then, huh. Seriously, it is amazing how petty you guys are...Sorry for the rant...--------------------Ric HamlinPacific Northwest Product SpecialistBrunswick Bowling"The effect of static weights, in ball reaction, is the equivalent of removing the floor mats, from your SUV, to get better gas mileage."www.BrunswickBowling.comwww.BrunswickInsiders.comwww.DBKMiniCamp.com
quote: I don't understand? LOL. I understand all too well. Bringing up a 30 year old layout brings fame a fortune to a discussion board member. Besides, arent you one of cgnomaddah gang? So who cares where the cg is placed and whether or not there even IS a cg? Given that it doesnt matter takes us back to the age of urethane which takes us back to the standard layout. Pin in palm. Ingenious!!-------------------- If yer arm don't hurt ya ain't shiftin it right! RESEARCH! Don't be a maroon!!.
quote:Greg it's about altering core dynamics. The pin in palm layout makes the RG in the core as low as possible, all the while keeping the diff intact for flare. This creates a new tendency of the core to find it's PSA a little faster, thus making the ball roll quicker.With the older balls the intention was different, there were only static weights, no cores.--------------------http://www.myspace.com/rlrussellThe artist formerly known as "jabroni"
quote:quote:Greg it's about altering core dynamics. The pin in palm layout makes the RG in the core as low as possible, all the while keeping the diff intact for flare. This creates a new tendency of the core to find it's PSA a little faster, thus making the ball roll quicker.With the older balls the intention was different, there were only static weights, no cores.--------------------http://www.myspace.com/rlrussellThe artist formerly known as "jabroni" Yup. I know this. All i am saying is that naming an old layout after someone who decided to begin using it again is rather silly. I never said it wasnt effective. I understand the differences in the core dynamics. All i'm saying is that pin in pal has been used for many many years, and at one time was just the standard layout for any given ball. So, the cores may have changed, but this is still an old layout.-------------------- If yer arm don't hurt ya ain't shiftin it right! RESEARCH! Don't be a maroon!!.
