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bfreshour

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Expected Reaction?
« on: March 17, 2010, 01:03:39 AM »
I'm hoping someone can help me, because I want to know if I should get a new ball...

I received a Mission X-OUT from a friend (my first, ball just started bowling 2 months ago).  Anyway, I took it to the Pro Shop and had the Pro there drill it.  She said she wasn't sure how it would react and explained to me why it was an X-OUT but I didn't really understand.  I think it has something to do with the PIN, CG, MB (aren't they all suppose to be in a straight line?).  One of the marks is way off...  I drew this in paint since I haven't had time to take an image hoping someone could help.

The red mark is the pin, the green mark is the little hand symbol (CG?), and the orange dot is the other mark (MB?).  Of course the black dots are my holes (finger tipped).

http://imgur.com/GfjO4.png

So my question is, how should I expect this ball to roll?  I have low revs, and an experience bowling I bowl with said he would classify me as a stroker type.
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the pooh

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Re: Expected Reaction?
« Reply #16 on: March 18, 2010, 09:40:18 AM »
I would think that you would definitely want to play just inside the oil line. Speed revs and side roll will get the ball to push a bit farther down the lane and save some of the hook for the back. Remember, this layout is immediate forward roll. A ball normally goes through three distinct phases: skid,hook,roll. This layout tends to diminish the first two phases and enhances the last. Surface is another very important factor to consider. This ball with this layout may be better with less surface. i.e.: 4000 Abralon or some degree of polish. Especially if, as a beginner, you don''t have a lot of revs or a strong release. Also, at your stage of development, you may be getting too much into the "magic" of layouts. Some good instruction or lessons are more important for you at this time. Once you have a consistent, proper release and average say, 170 and up, layout starts to become more critical.
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bfreshour

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Re: Expected Reaction?
« Reply #17 on: March 18, 2010, 09:44:07 AM »
JohnP, I''m pretty sure she used her scale, and I don''t have the static weights, I''d have to ask her.  I didn''t have a PAP when she drilled it, and still don''t really have one as I''m still really inconsistent on my throws and trying to find my style (new bowler).  

pooh, thanks.  So this ball isn''t ever going to FLIP over when it hits the backend and crush the pocket so it needs a smooth arc and trajectory into the pocket (that''s what I''m getting from what you are saying, please correct me if I''m wrong).

Also, by just inside the oil line do you mean like the 15, out to the 10 or 8?

I hope to learn more about all this before I get my next ball, and hopefully have a PAP that''s consistent that can be used for my drilling.

You guys are a wealth of information.

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the pooh

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Re: Expected Reaction?
« Reply #18 on: March 18, 2010, 09:57:46 AM »
The oil line is wherever the laneman puts it. Usually in the area of the ten board, but I've seen it at two and at 35 on played out lanes. Also it moves. Finding it is called the art of "reading" lanes. This is why lessons are so important. there is this and so many more things for you to learn.
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Re: Expected Reaction?
« Reply #19 on: March 18, 2010, 10:49:48 AM »
There could be a couple of things that could make this an X-Out. Ebonite wants to keep the CG within 1 1/2" of the Pin to MB line. Also it sounds like it has the Columbia CG Logo instead of the Ebonite CG Logo.

All the logos are Hot stamped in the ball so it probably got through before the stamp was changed. At the Track Training camp a couple of years ago I saw a Kinetic Energy with a Hammer MB logo on it.

With the way your ball looks like it is drilled there could be limitations to how it could be drilled. with Mass Bias and CG location and ability to place a weight hole and give you a drilling that doesn't roll at your toes. which kind of sounds like is happening.

I do agree with Dizzy that a High Performance ball may not be the best choice for a begining bowler but heck if it's free what can you say.

The last thing that has me concerned is your ball driller say she didn't know what kinds of reaction your going to get. I would have concerns about going there again.

Ball fitting, layout, and drilling is both Art and Science. There is so much info and training available to ball drillers that should be able really match up a bowlers style with a ball and to the condition they are bowling on.

I hope she at least got your PAP and drilled from that.


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