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General Category => Drilling & Layouts => Topic started by: baltimora on November 10, 2007, 06:26:14 AM

Title: SHORT PINS AND ASYMMETRICAL BALLS
Post by: baltimora on November 10, 2007, 06:26:14 AM
Ok, forgive my ignorance but I am interested in a Morich LevRG and see them on ebay with a short (1" or less) pin cheaper. I know that MB is more important in drilling an asymmetrical ball but what if anything is limiting by buying a short pin. Is it the same concept as for symmetrical?
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Title: Re: SHORT PINS AND ASYMMETRICAL BALLS
Post by: J_Mac on November 10, 2007, 02:59:26 PM
Well for high pin layouts it would be best to have long pin.  This is the same for symmetrical and asymmetrical balls.

Using a short pin for a high pin layout isn't the end of the world if the ball also has a low top weight, but putting the CG more than 3" outside of the grip center can lead to headaches when trying to get the ball legal again.
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Title: Re: SHORT PINS AND ASYMMETRICAL BALLS
Post by: River700 on November 10, 2007, 03:08:05 PM
From what I know and heard, short pins are good for rolly drillings, but you can stick the pin above the fingers, like the ring, if there is not to much top weight, if there is, you can always drill the fingers deaper.But probably still better to do a pin under fingers in that case. It also depends on your pap, speed, revs..ect. Plus if you were to get one, what volumn of oil would you be using it on? With that ball being as strong as it is with that short of pin, anything less than medium-heavy oil, would role out even if it was polished up. To anwser your question, asymmetricals and symmetricals are more similar today, than years ago, because of the mb being so strong in the new balls, the cg has basically no effect on a balls reaction for a asymmetrical. But symmetricals will still want to role earlier because of the shape of the core and rg. Now if you were to buy a ball with the same short pin on a symmetrical, it would be really rolly and really smooth, a asymmterical will still be kind of rolly with a short pin but not as much compared to a symmetrical. Hope this anwsers your questions.
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Title: Re: SHORT PINS AND ASYMMETRICAL BALLS
Post by: tburky on November 10, 2007, 03:28:59 PM
You can use short pins but you may have to drill fingers deeper sometimes 2-1/2" deep.
Title: Re: SHORT PINS AND ASYMMETRICAL BALLS
Post by: J_Mac on November 10, 2007, 03:29:03 PM
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Not to hijack, but what is the definition of "rolly"?
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Title: Re: SHORT PINS AND ASYMMETRICAL BALLS
Post by: baltimora on November 10, 2007, 06:15:37 PM
thank you everyone for the help. that answer my question. i don't think that will work well for me. i will stick with a longer pin one.
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