Author Topic: Storm X-Factor ACE (Read 3710 times)

Rob816 · « **on:** December 27, 2004, 02:38:41 PM »

I took my X-Factor ACE to the driller tonight to have it drilled, but after talking to him I wanted to get some advice from the knowledgable people here. It is 16 lb 2 oz, 2.5-3 inch pin with 2.2 oz of top weight. Prior to drilling the pin and mb are stacked with the cg a half an inch to the right of the pin and mb. I wanted it drilled 3 3/8 pin to pap with the mb 1 1/2 inches to the right of my thumb hole. With this drilling it places the pin right next to the upper right corner of my ring finger, the mb VERY slightly (and I mean slight) out from the pin, and the cg 1/2 an inch closer to my pap than the pin and mb. The driller stated that with this drilling I would need an extra hole. Keep in mind the ball wasn't drilled yet and static weight not known. Has anyone seen this type of layout without an extra hole? I only want an extra hole if ABSOLUTELY necessary because the balls I have had with extra holes don't seem to hit as hard and leave alot of ten pins. If an extra hole is ABSOLLUTELY necessary, would if be better to place it on or off my pap? I want the ball to hook HARD in the last quarter of the lane, and not loose any of it's extrodinary hitting power I keep hearing about.

Thanks for all your help

channel surfer · « **Reply #1 on:** December 27, 2004, 10:47:05 PM »

If he drills the finger holes a tad deeper, it should not need a weight hole at all.

If it does, place it right on your axis.
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Rob816 · « **Reply #2 on:** December 27, 2004, 10:52:06 PM »

Thanks for the reply. Does drilling the finger holes a little deeper change the reaction or hitting power at all?

VEE TWELVE · « **Reply #3 on:** December 27, 2004, 10:58:11 PM »

if he drills the finger wholes deeper the ball will roller a little earlier, if he drills the thumb deeper the ball will push a little furhter down the lane....not a huge difference in reaction though

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channel surfer · « **Reply #4 on:** December 27, 2004, 11:00:48 PM »

quote:
Thanks for the reply. Does drilling the finger holes a little deeper change the reaction or hitting power at all?

yea, nothing actually noticable.
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JohnP · « **Reply #5 on:** December 28, 2004, 09:44:26 AM »

WHOA -- If I'm reading Rob816's description of the ball specs and the layout, the issue that might require a balance hole is side weight, NOT finger/thumb weight. With the pin located "right next to the upper right corner of my ring finger" (which, by the way, introduces another problem - it voids the warranty if the pin to finger hole distance isn't at least 1"), 2.2 oz of initial top weight and 2.5 - 3" pin out distance, the cg will be close enough to the midline (for anything except an extremely long span) to make the ball legal from a finger/thumb weight standpoint. But from the description, the cg will be kicked out 1 - 1.5" from the center line. This may or may not be legal. If that's how you want the ball drilled, do it, then weigh it. If it's not legal, go ahead and throw it enough to evaluate the reaction, then let your ball driller determine the location of the balance hole to tweak the reaction for you. From what he's told you, I suspect he is plenty competent to do so. Good luck, and let us know how it turns out. -- JohnP

channel surfer · « **Reply #6 on:** December 28, 2004, 10:05:24 AM »

I meant to say that it would be a close call with the cg placement in relation to a weight hole, but I think i skiped it. Either way, john covered it.
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T-GOD · « **Reply #7 on:** December 28, 2004, 11:35:25 AM »

With that low of top weight, 2.2 oz and the pin right next to your ring with the MB stacked and CG 1/2" more to the right, the CG will be out about 2". This will leave roughly 1 oz. side weight, give or take an 1/8. So, if you do need a hole, it'll be very small to make the ball legal. =:^D

iommifan · « **Reply #8 on:** December 28, 2004, 11:40:46 AM »

I know I have personally spoken to Storm reps and they don't advise using the 33/8" pin (full leverage). They advise I believe 51/2" and putting the mass bias in the strong position. Their reason was the ball has a tendency to burn up to quickly in the full leverage position.

Rob816 · « **Reply #9 on:** December 29, 2004, 04:05:11 PM »

I finally had the ball drilled to the layout I described. It ended up just being legal. I immediately went and threw a couple of games. This ball definately lives up to what I kept hearing. With the layout I had done, the ball still goes long enough for me and when it gets to the back part of the lane it makes a sharp left and demolishes the pins.Even on off hits it sent the pins flying. I know there are alot of balls out there that hit the pins hard, but I personally have never seen nor used a ball that does what this ball does to the pins. I am definately going to get another one to hold on to before this one is discontinued. I know with only two games with it it might be premature to say this is how the ball will be on every condition. I did not experience any burn up.So far I will have to say this is the best ball I have ever thrown, but I have not thrown it on every condition. Thanks for all the help.

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