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alloutsmith3

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Straight as an arrow
« on: June 28, 2010, 05:49:59 AM »
If you were going to drill an entry level reactive ball for yourself to go as straight as possible how would you drill it. Would putting the pin on your axis or in your track be best or is there a better location. I'm talking about trying to make the ball go as straight as an arrow. I know this is generalized but I'm just looking for a generalized answer and opinions. Thanks
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Re: Straight as an arrow
« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2010, 01:56:19 PM »
I would just go with plastic.  ANY reactive is going to hook if the heads are fried.  Ihave a Vibe with (I think my driller said a 5 1/2" pin to Pap) and it has UFO polish on it.  It has a pop on the back and once they start to dry out it hooks.  

Again, plastic..... XXXL starburst may be what you want.
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Re: Straight as an arrow
« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2010, 06:59:59 PM »
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If you were going to drill an entry level reactive ball for yourself to go as straight as possible how would you drill it. Would putting the pin on your axis or in your track be best or is there a better location. I'm talking about trying to make the ball go as straight as an arrow. I know this is generalized but I'm just looking for a generalized answer and opinions. Thanks
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Pin on PAP, CG on grip center, zero weights, in general.
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Re: Straight as an arrow
« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2010, 07:34:06 PM »
Drill a urethane....
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Re: Straight as an arrow
« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2010, 07:41:12 PM »
pip on pap is a great way to neutralize the core, but you are still going to deal with the cover... I have drilled a ton of balls with pin on pap and for me it was always an early, smooth rolling reaction... definitely not "straight as an arrow"

... get a polished up urethane or plastic.
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alloutsmith3

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Re: Straight as an arrow
« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2010, 09:02:05 PM »
I use a plastic ball now but was hoping to kill 2 birds with one stone by combining a light oil and spare ball. Was thinking about trying the Motiv Recon thats going to be coming out.
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Re: Straight as an arrow
« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2010, 09:37:31 PM »
Are there any vids out there with a ball drilled up with the pin on or near the MB within 2" ?

I'd like to see something in action before trying it myself.
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Re: Straight as an arrow
« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2010, 10:18:09 PM »
Why waste a perfectly good reactive ball? Just drill it with a normal layout then come straight up the back of it. No revs, no hook...or drill a plastic like everyone else said. A reactive ball will do just that, react, once it hits the dry regardless of how you drill it.
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Re: Straight as an arrow
« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2010, 10:16:55 AM »
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Why waste a perfectly good reactive ball?


+1? If you want a ball that goes straight, get a polyester ball. Why work againts the reactive coverstock and its properties with a dead layout? the ball will still grip and hook unless you can deliver it with total forward roll. Pin on PAP would also be my suggestion here, though, but I do not see the point behind this project? I am confused...
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Re: Straight as an arrow
« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2010, 10:30:01 AM »
Get the Motiv Recon... You wont be disappointed. Dont buy a reactive ball and drill it to go straight, that is not the purpose of a reactive ball and more than not, you would be disappointed with the reaction from the ball.
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Re: Straight as an arrow
« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2010, 10:58:45 AM »
I drilled a Dry R label with side weight as close to zero as possible without placing a hole and it goes straight unless I crank on it or the lanes are extremely dry. This sounds like what the poster is looking for,to kill 2 birds with one ball. It works for me and I have been using the ball for close to 3 yrs now and have 1 in reserve.
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Re: Straight as an arrow
« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2010, 11:00:55 AM »
I think OP is wanting to turn apples into oranges.......
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Re: Straight as an arrow
« Reply #12 on: June 30, 2010, 11:14:56 AM »
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I use a plastic ball now but was hoping to kill 2 birds with one stone by combining a light oil and spare ball. Was thinking about trying the Motiv Recon thats going to be coming out.
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You may not like what this does for a strike ball,
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as someone has already implied, every ball will react somewhat differently depending on the usual factors.
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for a dry lanes ball, most people want and need length, not the earliest roll.

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alloutsmith3

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Re: Straight as an arrow
« Reply #13 on: June 30, 2010, 09:31:09 PM »
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I drilled a Dry R label with side weight as close to zero as possible without placing a hole and it goes straight unless I crank on it or the lanes are extremely dry. This sounds like what the poster is looking for,to kill 2 birds with one ball. It works for me and I have been using the ball for close to 3 yrs now and have 1 in reserve.


This is exactly what I'm trying to do. Just looking for ideas on the best way to take the core out of play as much as possible.

It won't be a waste of a ball because I bowl on many different conditions and will be able to use it.
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charlest

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Re: Straight as an arrow
« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2010, 09:51:48 PM »
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I drilled a Dry R label with side weight as close to zero as possible without placing a hole and it goes straight unless I crank on it or the lanes are extremely dry. This sounds like what the poster is looking for,to kill 2 birds with one ball. It works for me and I have been using the ball for close to 3 yrs now and have 1 in reserve.


This is exactly what I'm trying to do. Just looking for ideas on the best way to take the core out of play as much as possible.

It won't be a waste of a ball because I bowl on many different conditions and will be able to use it.
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But Jason, do you know what the Dry/R ball was? The Power Groove Dry/R.
It had one of the weakest coverstocks ever put on a ball. For 99% of the people, it would go dead straight if you drilled it full leverage!!!
Not every ball will do that. Heck, not many balls will do that. DOuble heck, hardly any ball will do that!

Why test an old used ball and check it out first, before wasting money on a new ball???
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