Post by: alloutsmith3 on June 28, 2010, 05:49:59 AM
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Post by: Good Times Good Times on June 28, 2010, 01:56:19 PM
Again, plastic..... XXXL starburst may be what you want.
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Edited on 6/28/2010 1:57 PM
Post by: charlest on June 28, 2010, 06:59:59 PM
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If you were going to drill an entry level reactive ball for yourself to go as straight as possible how would you drill it. Would putting the pin on your axis or in your track be best or is there a better location. I'm talking about trying to make the ball go as straight as an arrow. I know this is generalized but I'm just looking for a generalized answer and opinions. Thanks
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Jason Smith
Pin on PAP, CG on grip center, zero weights, in general.
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Post by: MTD300 on June 28, 2010, 07:34:06 PM
Post by: bighook69 on June 28, 2010, 07:41:12 PM
... get a polished up urethane or plastic.
Post by: alloutsmith3 on June 29, 2010, 09:02:05 PM
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Post by: kidlost2000 on June 29, 2010, 09:37:31 PM
I'd like to see something in action before trying it myself.
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Post by: tywithay on June 29, 2010, 10:18:09 PM
Post by: dizzyfugu on June 30, 2010, 10:16:55 AM
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Why waste a perfectly good reactive ball?
+1? If you want a ball that goes straight, get a polyester ball. Why work againts the reactive coverstock and its properties with a dead layout? the ball will still grip and hook unless you can deliver it with total forward roll. Pin on PAP would also be my suggestion here, though, but I do not see the point behind this project? I am confused...
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Post by: nmbr1sun99 on June 30, 2010, 10:30:01 AM
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Post by: notsohotshot on June 30, 2010, 10:58:45 AM
Post by: Good Times Good Times on June 30, 2010, 11:00:55 AM
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Post by: charlest on June 30, 2010, 11:14:56 AM
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I use a plastic ball now but was hoping to kill 2 birds with one stone by combining a light oil and spare ball. Was thinking about trying the Motiv Recon thats going to be coming out.
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Jason Smith
You may not like what this does for a strike ball,
PLUS
as someone has already implied, every ball will react somewhat differently depending on the usual factors.
PLUS
for a dry lanes ball, most people want and need length, not the earliest roll.
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Post by: alloutsmith3 on June 30, 2010, 09:31:09 PM
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I drilled a Dry R label with side weight as close to zero as possible without placing a hole and it goes straight unless I crank on it or the lanes are extremely dry. This sounds like what the poster is looking for,to kill 2 birds with one ball. It works for me and I have been using the ball for close to 3 yrs now and have 1 in reserve.
This is exactly what I'm trying to do. Just looking for ideas on the best way to take the core out of play as much as possible.
It won't be a waste of a ball because I bowl on many different conditions and will be able to use it.
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Jason Smith
Post by: charlest on June 30, 2010, 09:51:48 PM
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I drilled a Dry R label with side weight as close to zero as possible without placing a hole and it goes straight unless I crank on it or the lanes are extremely dry. This sounds like what the poster is looking for,to kill 2 birds with one ball. It works for me and I have been using the ball for close to 3 yrs now and have 1 in reserve.
This is exactly what I'm trying to do. Just looking for ideas on the best way to take the core out of play as much as possible.
It won't be a waste of a ball because I bowl on many different conditions and will be able to use it.
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Jason Smith
But Jason, do you know what the Dry/R ball was? The Power Groove Dry/R.
It had one of the weakest coverstocks ever put on a ball. For 99% of the people, it would go dead straight if you drilled it full leverage!!!
Not every ball will do that. Heck, not many balls will do that. DOuble heck, hardly any ball will do that!
Why test an old used ball and check it out first, before wasting money on a new ball???
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Post by: laufaye on June 30, 2010, 10:02:33 PM
To eliminate the hook or change of direction totally, throw the ball with zero axis rotation.
The cover is the part touching the lane, the only friction point, least friction is plastic, zero axis rotation even with friction still not going to change direction.
So to answer your question, I'll suggest Pin on track.....but I don't think just that will do what you want.
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Post by: notsohotshot on July 01, 2010, 12:19:13 AM
Post by: alloutsmith3 on July 01, 2010, 07:35:48 PM
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I drilled a Dry R label with side weight as close to zero as possible without placing a hole and it goes straight unless I crank on it or the lanes are extremely dry. This sounds like what the poster is looking for,to kill 2 birds with one ball. It works for me and I have been using the ball for close to 3 yrs now and have 1 in reserve.
This is exactly what I'm trying to do. Just looking for ideas on the best way to take the core out of play as much as possible.
It won't be a waste of a ball because I bowl on many different conditions and will be able to use it.
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Jason Smith
But Jason, do you know what the Dry/R ball was? The Power Groove Dry/R.
It had one of the weakest coverstocks ever put on a ball. For 99% of the people, it would go dead straight if you drilled it full leverage!!!
Not every ball will do that. Heck, not many balls will do that. DOuble heck, hardly any ball will do that!
Why test an old used ball and check it out first, before wasting money on a new ball???
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Yeah, I had a Dry/R for awhile drilled with a 4.5"-5" PTP and it made a great spare ball as well as a dry lane ball. Except for the major hook monsters I don't have too much of a problem getting a ball to go pretty straight. As well as I can hook just about anything. I've never drilled anything with such a weak drill and was curious how much hook potential could be taken out. Also thought about taking the surface to 2000 or 4000 plus polish. I appreciate the input and I think you had a good idea in getting a ball off the used forsale rack to play around with.
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Jason Smith