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DP3

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Simplifying layouts.
« on: August 21, 2006, 01:52:25 PM »
Is anyone going back to basics?  After looking at my long list of equipment and taking notes of gaps in what reactions I needed and was looking for I came to realize that just about everything is a bit too exotic, layout wise.  I am revamping everything I have for the fall season.  The only two balls I am keeping from last season are a Rush and Classic Zone which both have the same type of layout.  I'm staring at 4 balls that I have to punch before next week when leagues start and I think I'm just going to go back to basics instead of trying all the fancy mumbo jumbo.  Anyone else going back to basics(ex. label leverage no x-hole, pin over bridge, pin near axis)?
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kmanestor22

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Re: Simplifying layouts.
« Reply #16 on: August 22, 2006, 05:19:15 PM »
Label leverage works great on the THS, but when there is actually oil outside you see a lot of buckets and 2-10's.  Also, when the house shot breaks down (2nd shift), the lanes become wet/dry and label leverage goes through the nose if you get it out too early.  Label leverage on a strong ball can lead to a hook/set reaction for bowlers with a ton of revs.  There's is nothing wrong with any drilling, as long as it's used on the right conditions or for the right bowling style.  Having the basics along with some condition specific drillings can make a hell of an arsenal.
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CoachJim

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Re: Simplifying layouts.
« Reply #17 on: August 23, 2006, 03:43:46 AM »
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CoachJim -- Now, I may be wrong, but I think pin buffer is the distance from the pin to the VAL. I did a quick check at a couple of we sites but didn't find a definition. Pin height is the distance from the pin to the midline. Please let me know if this is right. -- JohnP  


The guy who drills my equipment showed it to me and is how he does it which is where I got these measurements, I think he got it from one of Storm's drilling sheets and prefered doing it that way instead. I have also heard it measured from the VAL, but of course that would be different measurements than what I gave and without the proshop tools at my disposal here to go and measure myself, I can't give those to you.

I personaly don't see a difference one way, you measure down from the pin and put a mark for your midline, and the other you starting off by putting a mark up for your val and tracing it around and measuring to the line and putting a mark on the line for the pap at what ever distance you are using to the pin it seems it to me it is a matter of prefference. You could probably do one against the other to double check before you drill if you knew what both distances should be.

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JohnP

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Re: Simplifying layouts.
« Reply #18 on: August 23, 2006, 04:24:10 PM »
CoachJim, -- You're right, it's just a matter or terminology.  But if we're not all using the same definitions for terms, we'll have mass confusion.  --  JohnP
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CoachJim

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« Reply #19 on: August 23, 2006, 05:47:01 PM »
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CoachJim, -- You're right, it's just a matter or terminology. But if we're not all using the same definitions for terms, we'll have mass confusion. -- JohnP  


Understood, I wasn't getting testy, just clarifying. From now on I will just say pin above, below or on the finger line.
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